Joined: May 10, 2009 Posts: 2 Location: western Oklahoma
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: new to the board
Hello all. I am happy to have found this board, considering I am new to the Jeep rebuiling forces of the world.
I hope I am in the right area to ask what model the Willys I just bought. It has a 6 inch hood, 27" one piece windshield with a vent door at bottom, 7 slot grill, headlights are rounded and stick out from the grille about an inch, tailgate, L134, tool boxes at the rear of both fenderwells (rear), flat fenders. and I have not located a number on the darn thing yet. I wanted to post a pic...but I am dumb. I'm thinking it is a CJ2A...45-49 model but not sure.
Any help would be appreciated, and I look forward to posting pics and asking tons of questions during my build. Thanks in advance!
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Illinois
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: Jeep model
Welcome to the forum - lots of good people and infomation can be found here!
Your Jeep sounds like it has a mix of parts. The tool bins behind the rear wheels point to it being a Willys MB or a Ford GPW. But the grill for those models should have recessed headlights and yours does not - could be the grill was replaced with one from a civilian model. Ditto the windshield frame with a vent - the MB and GPW did not have vents. Take a look at the front frame crossover (just under the bottom edge of the grill). If it is a round tube the frame is a Willys, if it is square, it may be the Ford GPW. Another possibility is that the tub is a reproduction and various parts were added from other sources to make it complete. Pics would help! Take a look at this website for a timeline of Jeep models:
http://www.m38a1.com/Resources/history.htm
Good luck with your resto - you will have a great time!
If the tub has a glove box on the far right of the dash, no tool box under the seat and a tool box at the rear end of each wheel house and NO tailgate it would be a WWII MB or GPW jeep tub.
WWII tool box
WWII has this style floor opening that is covered with a flat plate.
WWII dash
If the grill is 9 slot it is WWII and if it is 7 slot it is post WWII.
WWII Grill
M38 grill Note headlights bulge out and parking lamps are behind the grill and also note the hinges at the bottom of the grill. The MB and CJ2A/3A have rigid mount grills without these hinges..
The WWII and CJ2A had a squarish cornered twopiece windshield. The CJ3A had a one piece windshield with the top corners rounded and a vent panel in the lower skin with a handle that opened it. The M38 windshield was similar to the 3A windshield but it's vent panel was bolted shut with no handle.
CJ2A windshield.
M38 windshield
The CJ3A vent panel set up.
The WWII frame does not mount the steering bellcrank. It is mounted to the top of the front axle housing. The post WWII jeeps all mount the steering bellcrank to the crossmember under the radiator.
The M38 frame uses bolts to attach the pedal support. The rest use rivets.
M38 frame.
CJ3A frame and pedal support is riveted.
CJ2A frame and pedal support is welded. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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