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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: No Fire, Coil or Points? Reply with quote

Maybe someone can help me out. Jeep was running great until I can to an abrupt stop by hitting a tree. Everything seems to be fine was not going that fast. Just a jolt to everything and now I'm not getting fire, I don't know how to check the coil, points seem to be ok, but no way to really tell on them either. Does anyone have a method for determining where my no fire problem is coming from. Condenser, points, coil?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TM 9-8012 Page 73 Par 78B Engine turns but will not start. You will probably move right to sub-par 78B (6) and then to Par 81. Follow each step and you will find your problem. Try to avoid the slam bang shotgun approach to troubleshooting where you solicit suggestions and hop all around the engine trying these different things. Avoid throwing parts at your problem until you have troubleshot it in an orderly manner and determined a part is really needed. Take notes and write your observations down. You will be surprised how easy it is to forget what you did an hour ago. You will learn a lot more about your jeep the easy way by following the manuals troubleshooting chart step by step.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry but how do I search for the article you mentioned, I cannot find TM 9-8012
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After you LOG IN to this site, click on "Downloads" at the top of the page. Then click on the section "M38 M38A1 M170 M606", the TM's (Technical Manual) are found there - you can search the pages on-line or download to your computer. Also on the top of the page you will see the "Search" function - click on that and a search window will open up where you can type in search terms and find a ton of information in past posts.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have the basic set of service and parts manual for your jeep on your work bench whenever having troubles or making repairs. They are free to download in PDF format from this web site.

TM 9-8014 Operator's Maintenance Manual
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=86

and changes 3 thru 7 on this page
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=39&min=10&orderby=titleA&show=10

TM 9-8015-1 Engine & Clutch Service Manual
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=85

TM 9-8015-2 Powertrain, chassis and body service.
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The changes for 8015-2 are here:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=39&min=20&orderby=titleA&show=10

ORD 9 SNL G-758 M38A1 parts Manual
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=87


You can also buy CD's & paper copies at:
http://www.originalreproductionsllc.com/details.html?cat_id=26
http://www.this-old-jeep.com/This-Old-Jeep.com/These_Old_Jeep_Manuals.html
http://www.military-manuals.com/military_vehicles_manuals/us-military-army-jeep/us-army-jeeps-mb-gpw-m38-manuals.html
http://www.portrayal.com/manuals.html
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks I joined when I bought the jeeps but haven't done much work to them, but now I'm ready to start restoring them. Thanks for the tips and explanations. This should make everything much easier.
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