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circleburner12
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: copper lines Reply with quote

does anyone have any detailed pics of the copper lines and where they go? for an a1. thxs
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this posting... it is mine but it lists all of the part numbers and such...

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4806

Hope it helps...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are actually copper plated steel tubes.

The M38A1 ORD 9 and the TM 9-8015-1 have very good illustrations.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thxs wesk, i'll be the first to say that im no expert on reading these manuals, and what i did see in the manuals there still was'nt a clear pic of which lines were copper plated. or where the copper lines went to. i guess what im asking is if there anyone that has restoreed there jeep back with these lines could they please post a pic of them. wesk was these lines from the factory or were they a field repair?

also guys do you think thinks copper plated lines can be clean up and replated?.

as always thxs for all the info!!!!. thxs
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The standard treatment for the original steel lines with copper plating is to spray paint them with copper paint.

It was standard practice in the field to replace the original steel with copper when a steel line failed. That is why copper stock tubing by length is listed in the ORD 9's

In practice today one should retain steel lines for all fuel plumbing. If you want a factory original look you'll need steel on the vent plumbing as well. The construction of every line by material parts and lengths is listed in the ORD 9. Copper tubing for the two distributor vent lines makes adjusting the distributor housing for timing a little easier. With steel tubes you must disconnect the tube then adjust the timing and then re-align the tubes and re-connect them.

The TM 9-8015-1 M38A1 Engine Maintenance Manual has a dozen excellent illustrations showing the lines clearly and it has a separate chapter on the vent system.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thxs wesk, i'll take my original steel copper plated lines and try to recoat them or send them out to be replated. thxs
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