Frame question

Xamon · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:38 pm Post subject: Frame question

The front cross member, the round one that the rad would attach to, is it available as a reproduction part? "bubba" hacked mine in half horizontaly and moved the rad to the other side of it so he could mount a 327 chevy in it. I will post pics eventualy. I have lots but no gallery yet. Fortunatly everything else on the frame seems alright except other missing brackets/mounts.

wesk · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject:

I do not know of any repop frame structures for the M38.
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evanso1975 · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:16 am Post subject:

The only repro frames I've seen are the MD Juan Mad

ones:
http://www.mdjuan.com.ph/index.php/product/?id=J0000-00030-04-00

Obviously you don't need a complete frame, but I did purchase some of their panels (I know!) as "special order" a while back. It's possible they would be willing to sell one to you as a one-off. Check with one of their dealers local to you:
http://www.mdjuan.com.ph/index.php/dealers/

Failing that, you might try modifying one of the MB front crossmembers:
https://www.dlbensinger.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_47&products_id=300&osCsid=5b8ec94b41b468806a9bc25a0e29f77e
You'd need to cut off the grille bracket, and flatten the underside of the tube to take the steering bell crank bracket (I assume you still have this?).

A cheaper option would be to do what this fellow did (about half way down the page):
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=169966
I suppose you could do that with round tube instead of square?

Owen.
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Xamon · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:25 am Post subject:

not sure about fabing my own but that MB looks pretty close, if it will work I might go with that, otherwise I will take the measurements and see what a local shop can fab up. Can anyone compare the MB crossmember to the M38 please?

evanso1975 · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:57 am Post subject:

Dad's WW2 jeep ia a GPW (different style of crossmember), so I can't check that one.

The picture in this post is of an M38 crossmember:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1087&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Note that the bellcrank is attached to the crossmember. Note also the flattened area of crossmember around where the bellcrank bracket is welded. This post has a picture from another angle:
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=74136

The MB bellcrank attached to the front axle, so no flattened area on the crossmember:
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=76164

The holes in the radiator mount brackets for that repro MB crossmember look a lot smaller than my M38 ones too:

Not sure if those larger radiator mount holes are correct, or if Bubba tried his handiwork on mine. Can anybody confirm? Confused

Owen.
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1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406

Xamon · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject:

My original steering box is there thankfully.

Here is a shot of the part in question. Gonna be fun fixing this. Also a couple of what are theys....

hope I did that right....
Oh and the hole size looks right he cut my brackets and moved them and the holes look about the same.
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evanso1975 · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 am Post subject:

Yikes, Bubba's certainly done a sterling job there! Shocked

Your 1st "what are they" photo looks like one part of the strap that goes over the fuel tank to hold it in place. There a photo here:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2041&highlight=

The 2nd "what is it" is the headlight dimmer switch (I think). Here's one on Ebay, courtesy of RonF:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Willys-M38-M38a1-dimmer-switch-douglas-connectors-NOS-/220819970054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369e55806

Good luck with that crossmember. Wink

Owen.
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1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406

Xamon · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:26 am Post subject:

Thanks, I thought that was what the strap was, kinda wierd to have that and not the tank though. I will have to look closer at the electrical piece its in a tight spot.
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