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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: M-38A1 Crossmember Rivets Reply with quote

I took the body off my M-38A1 today in preparation of taking the springs, axles and other parts off to get the frame ready to be sent to the sandblaster. When I got the body off I found the rear cross member was bolted on with round head Allen screws and nuts...

I need to know what type of rivet (flat or round head), size (3/8" or other) and quantity (I think I need 10; 4 on each frame rail and 2 on the pintle hook bracket) to order to do the repair. I want to take the Allen screws out and fix it properly...

I looked through the forums but was unable to confirm the information I need...

Thanks in advance...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you reviewed the 43 M38A1 frame photos in my album?

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album149&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1

I think your hole sizes you find when you remove the current fasteners will dictate your rivet diameters. If they seem large I would try weld filling them and re-drilling. Without some way to re-temper the steel you'll be inviting cracks as soon as the frame is placed back in service.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the photos I see in your albums are from the inside of the frame, also it appears that the pintle plate is welded to the cross member...

Also FYI I only see 30 photos there... Smile
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1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then we both are blind. I recounted 20 on page one and 11 on page 2!
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