Spare tire carrier differences

DJ · Member Joined: Apr 15, 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Wis.

What is the difference if any,between a A1 and aM38 spare tire carrier? Will they inter change,or are they model specific?

Thanks DJ

PS , Shocked

( I did a search and came up with nothing)

Ryan_Miller · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject:

DJ,

The spare tire carrier should interchange betweent the M38 and M38A1.

If I remember the main difference is that the M38 is a two piece bolted together and the M38A1 is a one piece welded unit.

Many of the M38 units were welded or modified due to the original bracket as delivered had some problems unless welded or a brace added after extended use.
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G740 · Member Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 500

They are completely different. Being as I manufacture the A1 Carrier, I can tell you this. They may interchange, but they are made quite differently. Regards, John
www.midwestmil.com

wesk · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:35 am Post subject:

M38

M38A1
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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DJ · Member Joined: Apr 15, 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Wis.

Thanks again Wes, the pictures show the difference nicely, So what I have is a M38 carrier. Seems they are bit hard to find,but Epay did me right this time!!

Sal · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

Is there suppose to be a reflector on the spare tire carrier? I noticed that neither of the photos had one but I've seen pictures of vehicles with one mounted central to the rim center hole.
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1952 M38 MC71029
1942 Willys MBT trailer

fredjones · Member Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 4

If you have an early style M38A1 jeep you are restoring, the M38 spare tire holder would probably be more accurate. I have only seen the reinforced tire holder on later production M38A1's.

In the picture Wes provided of the M38 tire holder the joint were the top square section meets the bottom triangular section is a series of short arc welds. This seam over time tends to pull apart, from backing into something or road shock, causing the tire to tilt forward, sag or be crooked.

The solution was to add the strips of angle iron to the design as
reinforcement. And, it worked.

Ryan_Miller · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

There is a lens bracket that fits between the spare tire bracket studs that when the spare tire is mounted on to the bracket, the reflector shows up in the wheel rim center.

I get a picture and post it later today.
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MVPA # 22010

wesk · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject:

Only the M38 was two seperate pieces bolted together. The M38A1 was one piece all along and as fred syas the more heavily reinforced version was later A1.
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Ryan_Miller · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject:

Here is a photo of the spare tire reflector bracket on the right side of the photo.

From Gary Keating photo gallery.

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MVPA # 22010

Herrmann_Sherman · Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: Spare tire holder reloaded

Now reloaded. I´m missing the photos from wesk. I´m asking because a guy sold me a spare tire holder and I´m not sure is he wrong or right for my M38 and how do I have to fix him on my M38 if it´s a M38A1 holder...

This one I have and at the moment I don´t have any holes in my tailgate...

wesk · Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject:

The three carriers are all interchangeable between the M38 and the M38A1. They bolt on the same set of four holes on either jeep.

Your one piece welded unit came off an M38A1.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Herrmann_Sherman · Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:54 am Post subject:

This informations are very helpful. Many thanks wesk!


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