STRATA BLUE PAINT

[pilotomutante]

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone of you gents might have the RAL color code for USAAF Strata Blue paint.

I ordered a spray can from Rapco to be delivered to Chicago where I did managed to pick it up, but got busted at the airport and it went to the garbage can

I just need a RAL code or a sample in order to make some paint here in Spain. No one seems to know anything about federal standard codes on this side of the Atlantic, only RAL codes.

Thanks for your help:

Jose

[Bill_F]

The PPG paint Code I used was U.S. Air Force Strata Blue PPG code 17634 here is the other information I used to track down the PPG code

USAF blue is known as STRATA BLUE, 15045 (Federal Standard 595B).

Color was " Strata Blue , number 15045 of Federal Standard 595 ,
spec. 11-E-485 "

[pilotomutante]

Thanks Bill, all those codes I already got through to them. Problem is they don't mean much in Europe. They only understand RAL codes. I'm trying to get an equivalent in RAL

Thanks anyway!

Jose

[wesk]

Here's a few sites that may help:

http://www.fair2middling.com/old/Models/fs-chips-5-blue.htm

http://www.e-paint.co.uk/default.asp?cRef=RAL+5013&pType=&pFinish=&cDescription=Cobalt+blue

http://www.ralcolor.com/

Looks like the closest matches to USAF 15045 are:
5000 Violet Blue (a tad dark)

5002 Ultrmarine Blue (a tad too blue)

5010 Gentian Blue (very close)

5026 Pearl Nite Blue ( a tad dark)
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[RICKG]

Jose, i spoke to a friend who is in architectural powdercoating.
He deals in RAL numbered finishes daily. I asked if there was
a cross-reference for Fed Std## to RAL## in a document or chart
type format and he said a documented cross reference did not exist.
In other words he would have to have an existing color sample to
match as a custom color match-not off the shelf.
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keep 'em rollin'
RICKG MC 51986 DOD 01-52, '50 CJ3a

[wesk]

There are a few cross references if you google up RAL cross reference charts. I didn't find any that addressed RAL to FS595 15045. There were a couple that Crossed 15044. There are plenty of sites with color plates on line for both RAL blues and FS595 Blues so a direct comparison is simple to do.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[RICKG]

I should have been more specific and stated that
my contact could not reference FS595 15045 to RAL#.
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keep 'em rollin'
RICKG MC 51986 DOD 01-52, '50 CJ3a

[evanso1975]

I went down this road about 2 years ago. After paying out for many spray cans (the figure of 20 cans seems to stick in my mind) of RAL paint that from my color chips looked a pretty close match, I didn't get a single one that matched.

However, after contacting one of the paint suppliers here in the UK, they were getting some Strata Blue mixed from an original sample for another customer (from an M37 Powerwagon, if I remember right). I got a sample of the mixed paint sent to me, and it was a close enough match that I ended up ordering 5 gallons.

The vendor's contact details are here:

http://www.milweb.net/dealers/trader/frankburberypaints/

Not sure if he ships to Europe, but it's worth the time to send an email.

Owen.
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Owen

1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406

[evanso1975]

If it helps, here's some photos of the mixed paint I got (the camera flash didn't do the 1st photo any favours):




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Owen

1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
MVT # 19406

[Bill_F]

That looks much lighter than what mine came out as.

[wesk]

That comes from viewing the two different paints under different lighting conditions. It's impossible to make an accurate comparison if the two samples are not viewed under exactly the same light conditions.


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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[evanso1975]

Wes wrote:

[Bill_F]

My paint matches the orginal that was still on my tub fairly well. Let me know when you find a match for the yellow, the one I used is not correct, it is way to dark.

[wesk]

My time in the USAF 1966-89 we used a yellow lacquer for all stenciling that called out yellow. I seem to recall the cans were marked PPG.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[pilotomutante]

Thanks to all for your help. Will let you know how things develop.