M38 Power Plant Weight

[capescw]

A forum search did not give me the answer, so I'll try here! Can anyone give me the weight of the ENTIRE M38 power plant (engine & transmission / transfer). I don't want to pull down the ceiling on my garage. Thanks, all!

[SledDog]

I just pulled my engine, tranny and x-fer last weekend. Unfortunately, I sent it off to a mechanic.

[kenperkins]

your tm9-1804a states 365# for the dry engine and flywheel.
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[Jim]

I would recommend renting an engine hoist and A-frame,
especially with the way homes are constructed nowadays.
The weight will be a bit less than the cubic footage of a
solid block of iron, and you can approximate the weight
with the measurements of the assembly (W X H X L) times
the specific gravity of iron, which I don't have right at the
tip of my tongue, but can probably be found on Google.

[RICKG]

Here's the "farm boy" method of powerplant removal.
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[MODIFIED]

You might want to query net weight of stock power plant for the MB, GPW, CJ2A, and CJ3A in addition to your M38 browsing criteria as they all basically share the same Engine/ Trans/ TC .
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[jimm]

[wesk]

The cost of a cherry picker is in the $150 range and has a ton of other uses for you to take advantage of later. Lifting tubs and etc! It also beats the dickens out of pushing the jeep back & forth.
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[capescw]

Gentlemen,

I thank you all for the quick responses! I thought I read the TM, but I definitely missed that entry for weight. It's a new support beam in the garage, triple 2x8's on a 7' span, also well supported, should be OK (but I have a LONG control cable, just in case). I must admit, I really like the 'Farm Boy' approach.

Should you be curious:

http://www.bill-capes.com/insanity/index.html

Thanks again -

[wesk]

You were a wee bit ahead of me. I made A2C in 1967. Very impressive job tackling that project at age 74! My hats off to you. I wish you a quick resto followed by many more years of jeep driving pleasure!
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[jimm]

[Boze]

Page 105 of the operations manual states the entire power plant weighs in at 663 lbs. This should include the tranny, t-case, bell housing, engine with all bolt-ons and radiator.

[capescw]

Another manual I thought I read, but missed that part of it! You are absolutely correct, it was also in TM 9-8012, superceding TM 9-804 (thank you, Google).

Hoist combo is rated 800 lbs, but I STILL won't stand under it when I pull the power plant.

Again, thanks to all! 'Lazarus' is now two separate entities, body and frame/power. Still deciding on repair/replace of body. Both floor sections have to be replaced, $$$$$$$
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[Bretto]

I took a look at your pics from your site and I think I'd go in the direction of repair. While new is nice, replacement bodies can be more of a nightmare then repairing old, and you'll have an original tub still. While bad body panels or rusted out holes can look intimidating, it really isn't that bad looking once you have cut it out or pounded out dents. If you can weld, go for it.
Take a took at my link on my build, it may give you you some insight.
Brett
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