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davbell25413
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject: Willys Hardtop Hardware Reply with quote

Anybody know where I can get parts for this willys jeeps hard top. I need mounting hardware for top and doors, weatherstripping, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be a tag on it ID'ing the manufacturer. If you can locate a tag and that company is still in business then you may get lucky. The norm is you fabricate your own. The doors usually simply drill holes in the cowl and windshield post and bolt on. The body on some just used bolts through the top's lower channel into the tubs upper channel. Some tops had shaped large brackets at the corners for more strength.

It's a civilian top so perhaps you can post some quality detailed photos of it in your album and reference them in a post to Willys Tech.
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WillysTech/conversations/messages

For Civilian jeeps and parts you cannot beat the CJ3B page for info and help.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cJ3B/Tech.html

Early CJ hardtops:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cJ3B/Hardtop.html

Customizing a Koenig top for more light in the jeep and better visibility:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cJ3B/Owners/Ahlberg4.html

Also davbell25413,
It helps to publish your real first name and model jeeps owned in your signature block. Just open your profile and add the information to your signature block.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your top does not look like a Koenig:

This is on a CJ3A. Note how the the sides up front suddenly angle inward. The cowl and windshield top is narrower than the CJ5 or 6 seen below.

Nor does it match an early beck or Kemco although the edges of the roof resemble this brand the most:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks just like bottom pic in the previous post.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then you will notice the top skins overlap the tub sides and she's bolted to the tub. If you actually have the ealry Beck or Kemco top which eventually became the Kelly Top then looks like all the hardware you need are the correct size bolts and nuts. Do your doors match the doors shown?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found out from another jeep forum that its a Meyers/Orville top.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orville bought out Meyers in the 70's I believe. So you would not have an Orville top since they are all rounded sides for the roof not sharp angles. the Meyers tops also had rounded roof sides.


Early Meyers tops


Late Orville(Meyers) top
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No luck on finding a ID tag anywhere. Here's of side view of the top and pic of one of the doors.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a Beck/Kemco top. Have you set it on the tub yet to confirm it matches the tubs shape, width and length? With the top resting on the tub do the doors line up correctly with the windshield angle and the front of the door sill area?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I havent yet. That will probably be in the spring sometime. I just wanna make I have all hardware to mount it on the tub. I know I need the rubber seals for side windows.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My points are the tops do not fit all model jeeps. The windshield angles/width and doorways on the CJ5 & CJ6 are not even close to any of the flat fender jeeps.

Unless you can find a set of installation intructions for an early Beck/Kemco top specific to your model jeep you will be guessing at hardware and should actually wait til you have the top temporarily fitted to decide on bolt lengths and etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Mine is a CJ2A. Thanks for the help.
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