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WEB Member
Joined: Apr 18, 2014 Posts: 2 Location: NE Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: Left Hand lug nuts ? |
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Greetings to all,
I have always wanted an older military jeep and finally found one that doesn't have to be rebuilt from the ground up as my mechanical experience is limited. The new addition is a fire engine red 1953 m38a1 which has been heavily ciiliainized (civilian seats, wheels, ball hitch, one peice windshield, all blackouts removed, and a rollbar.) It looks almost new and drives very nice but maintenence may have been a little neglected. My 14 year old son and I plan to restore it to its former military glory,so far we have replaced most of the brake system because all five cylinders were leaking due to pitting from not replacing the brake fluid. I have learned a ton from this website already and will surely have plenty of questions in the future.
So I will start off with an easy one. Why are the lugnuts/studs on the drivers side, a left hand thread pitch? Or is it just my jeep? |
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evanso1975 Member
Joined: May 10, 2010 Posts: 615 Location: North Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Many older (pre-1970?) vehicles have left hand lug nuts on the drivers side. Basically a safety thing; if the nuts haven't been torqued down, the rotation of the wheels when driving forwards prevents the left hand lug nuts from loosening (and leaving you minus 2 wheels on the driver's side). Similarly, that's why the passenger side ones are right hand.
Welcome to the site, and have fun with your project. _________________ Owen
1951 US Air Force M38
1944 F-1 1/2-ton Airdrome Trailer
1940 C15 Chevrolet CMP 11-cab
1939 DKW KS200 Motorcycle
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artificer Member
Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Gold Coast Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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They can safely be replaced with all RH treaded ones, if that is your wish. _________________ John GIBBINS
ASE Master Medium/Heavy Truck & Auto Technician 2002 USA
Licensed Motor Mechanic NSW # MVIC 49593 Current
YOU CAN'T TROUBLESHOOT WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND |
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Joined: Apr 18, 2014 Posts: 2 Location: NE Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I was thinking that it might be something like that. Kind of like the left hand pedal on a bicycle, but it just didn't make sense to me how that would pertain to wheels . Thanks for the info.
Wyatt |
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artificer Member
Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Gold Coast Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Certain marques like Dodge/Chrysler used this until the early/mid 50's when they realized it made no real difference. _________________ John GIBBINS
ASE Master Medium/Heavy Truck & Auto Technician 2002 USA
Licensed Motor Mechanic NSW # MVIC 49593 Current
YOU CAN'T TROUBLESHOOT WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16376 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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It had a lot to do with old habits. The early wagon and motor car car wheels seldom had any self locking feature for their lug nuts. The nuts were usually plain flat nuts against a plain flat surface on the wheel and in many cases there was only a hub nut again with no modern self locking devices. Then along came the raised dimple lug holes in the wheels and the angled face lug nuts and the issue was solved. When torqued properly the raised dimple maintains pressure against the tapered nuts and essentially locks them. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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Phil4280 Member
Joined: Aug 06, 2011 Posts: 111 Location: Brisbane Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have also found it being used on modern trucks as well Being military and civilian .
Phil... _________________ Ex Aust Army Engineer ;
M3 Stuart Lt tank,1942 C8A HUW, Ex mil Landrovers,1ton Humber & Austin Champ, Mk1 Ferret scoutcar,trailers & Miltary radios.
Current projects:- M606A3 and 1958 Landrover 106mm RCL gun buggy
Latest addition M38A1 date e |
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jaycee Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2014 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:18 am Post subject: |
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with regard to your brake cylinders, you can send them to white post restorations and have them brass sleeved and rebuilt which makes them forever cylinders,but it is expensive. jeep parts are easy to come by but i mention it because it might appeal to some folks and also some jeepers may have interests in other antique vehicles where parts are made from exotic "unobtainium alloy" |
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