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krjeep
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:29 am    Post subject: Radiator cap chain on a m38A1 Reply with quote

Where does the chain on the radiator cap hook to on the jeep?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not recall any chains on the M38 radiator caps. Probably added to your cap in the field or your cap is from a different application. There are no chains listed in the supply manuals and if look at the illustrations in your TM 9-8012 there are none. The cap appears in figures 68, 39, 37, 32, & 31.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: Radiator cap Reply with quote

This is on a M38A1
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Radiator cap Reply with quote

krjeep wrote:
This is on a M38A1


MINE IS ATTACHED TO THE RADIATOR OVERFLOW TUBE ON MY A1. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not recall any chains on the M38A1 radiator caps. Probably added to your cap in the field or your cap is from a different application. There are no chains listed in the supply manuals and if look at the illustrations in your TM 9-8014 there are none. The cap appears in figures 59, 53, 52, 37, & 36 without any chain. Also in TM 9-8015-1 Engine & clutch manual figures 1 & 2 show the cap clearly without any chain.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Radiator cap Reply with quote

hillbilly21 wrote:
krjeep wrote:
This is on a M38A1


MINE IS ATTACHED TO THE RADIATOR OVERFLOW TUBE ON MY A1. Wink


Mine too on my M38a1 Nekaf
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones with chains are later replacements. I have the same cap on my 'a1 and my deuce. But yes, if you have a chain, hooking it to the overflow tube works great.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no chains listed in the Dutch(M38A1(Nekaf)) manuals and if look at the illustrations there are none.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1952 M38A1 without chains. Must be a later model.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late or early the documents all show no chains M38/M38A1/M170 radiator caps. Obviously at some point in the field some chains were installed. By which service we don't know. Most likely the result of an MWO or TB requiring the caps to have chains added in the field to all wheeled vehicles since I have not found any M38/M38A1 specific MWO's or TB's on the subject. Bottom line factory class resto gets no chains. Motor pool class is your choice. If you intend to have the vehicle judged be prepared to be asked to provide documents or photographic evidence that they were installed in the field during the period your motor pool resto represents.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1956 and 1958 Nekafs do both have radiator caps with a small chain connected to the overflow tube. The one from 1958 comes straight from the army and even has a pressure release knob on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

many dealers have been selling these radiator caps with the chains as replacements. Have seen them since early eighties.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generic replacements always seemed to have the chains. It is simple sound marketing / engineering technique to ensure each cap meets the widest set of applications.
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