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Brumbach
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:04 am    Post subject: M38 Data Plates Reply with quote

Affixed to my data plate, are six individual plates attached by rivets. At the bottom center, there are four rivet holes but no plate. Is this space suppose to have a plate, and if so, what plate is it? Looks like it would be 1 1/4" X 1 1/4"in size. Lastly, what is the procedure to restore these plates? Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That extra space is for a winch plate which most Jeeps did not get installed at factory so that is typically left blank like yours is.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winch plate


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The data plates attached to the dash has a serial number different than the one listed on that patent plate. Are they suppose to match? I'm the first owner after it was removed from military service. The vehicle is original excluding the engine which was blown when I purchased it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrary to what some folks think this is not common. Nor is it a factory screw-up. A mismatch in serials on those two plates will 99% of the time be traced to one or the other:

1-Most common switch occurs when a used tub from one M38 is placed on another's frame where the owner, unaware of the presents of the patent plate only moves his old dash set of plates to his new/used tub.

2-While in the service the dash plate set was often removed for restamping changes on the plates like the tire pressures and most GI privates had no desire to make sure the same plates set got back on the same jeep.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found my error. I've been cleaning up my deceased father's data plates from his M38A1. Now where in the world did I put my plates? Back to the barn.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My early M38 that did not use a data plate,
and had the individual plates screwed to the
dash did not have the four holes for the winch
plate. That plate was also not included with
the purchase. Also, there is no evidence of
the PTO having been installed.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I've found my plates. Yep, they're individual and not attached to a larger plate. The dash data plate serial number matches the number on the patent plate. With my plates, I also found a metal band which is approximately 1/2" X 6". The band has the following data: STK-62740 835 8318. I removed it from something on the jeep but that's been 39 years ago. Anyone know what it is? There are three holes for attaching; one on each end and one in the center.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of data plates, do we have a file or photo album of all of the different data plates?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No but I'll create one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually those albums already exist in my photo album. The second album on the first page of Member's albums. I have two sub-albums that address the ID'g of the m38 and the M38A1 with samples of the different plates.

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album84&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album87&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Don't recall what that prefix was for but the ordnance PN 8358319 is for the whole jeep.
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