1952 M38 CDN Correct Engine Colour

L84dinner

I have followed an earlier thread that states the M38CDNs were delivered with engines painted gray. The thread stated that the colour should be Ford 9N Gray and that this paint was available from New Holland. I secured 9N Gray paint from New Holland (39/62 or M1J-957-SE5DS) but it is very light - almost cream colour.

I thought this has to be a mistake as I was expecting a battleship gray colour but noted a small section of old paint on the dipstick that closely matches this colour.

Can anyone confirm that the New Holland paint referenced is correct?
Also I believe the paint covered both engine and bell housing. Is that correct?

Many thanks,

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John
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1952 M38CDN F-101165 CAR 52-31204

wesk · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject:

Have you visited with Hawkshadow on this topic?

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7590&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

L84dinner · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject:

Yes contacted Hawkshadow and M38CDN Bill. Appears this is the correct colour.

Thanks,

John

wesk · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:35 pm Post subject:

Did Hawkshadow say why he went with the battleship gray instead?
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

ROBCDN3 · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:34 am Post subject:

Hi John and Wes. My 1971 M38A1 CDN3 has the battleship grey on the rebuilt engine. The engine was rebuilt by Bennett and Hanson the rebuild shop for the Canadian Army. If your motor is a rebuild go with the darker grey.
Cheers Rob

L84dinner · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:06 pm Post subject:

Hawkshadow found the grey engine enamel he used to be very close in colour. He thinks I have a Ford 8N colour but also notes that you can't be sure what Ford might have used. M38CDN Bill thinks my colour is correct for new and its a close match to the little bit of paint on the dipstick tube.

The rebuild colour which I think was RCME was a light blue.

Wish there was a more definitive resource on this.

Thanks,

John

Hawkshadow · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject:

hey all,

Yes I went with the plastikote in colour 202 - universal grey on top of the primer made for their engine enamel. I wanted an engine enamel that would be durable for the long run and also matched the ford 9N colour samples that I found at the time.

It’s been several years now and I’ve been happy with the choice. It gave a good colour and nice finish which has held up well and cleans up nicely. Using the lighter colour not only cleans up and stands out nicely at shows, but it makes it easier to work in the engine compartment.

As I sent to John, I think he can be satisfied which whichever of the colours he chooses as neither appears to be incorrect from my experience and research.
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Jordan

M38 CDN
52-30718

wesk · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject:

Jordan, can you post a recent photo of your engine here?
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Hawkshadow · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject:

Here is the most recent that I have of it. Anything more detailed will take a little bit as it's tucked away for the winter right now.

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Jordan

M38 CDN
52-30718

wesk · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject:

That does look a bit like the tanish gray listed above in that light.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

L84dinner · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:28 am Post subject:

The lighter engine colour does pull up the detail of the accessories.

Beautiful job Jordan.

John


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