M38a1 tailgates

M880 · Member Joined: Aug 20, 2019 Posts: 7

Hi All,
Did any of the later M38a1 jeeps come with tailgates?

Since your question was of a technical nature and offered nothing "For Sale" I moved it from the "For Sale" board to this Technical Board.

wesk · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:56 pm Post subject:

No. All the 1952 thru 1971 US & Canadian built M38A1's came with NO tailgate.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

BobW · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:54 pm Post subject:

Of course the military did test a tailgate kit in 1953, so there was at least one out there.....

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Bob W. Monticello, NY. 1952 CJ3A, 1952 M38, 1950 CJV-35/U

wesk · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject:

This of course would be an M38A1 delivered by Willys without a tailgate then modified and tested in the field at the Army's Aberdeen Proving Ground.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

DJ · Member Joined: Apr 15, 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Wis.

Bubba also did a few,I'm sure. Seen one on ebay, Bubba was real proud,claimed it improved the vehicle, and of course he wanted more money. It was not very pretty looking.
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51 M38 ,52 M38 ,53 Jeep PU ,62 M 37 ,68 M 715

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:04 am Post subject:

That APG vehicle would be an interesting unit to do, though. Looks like you have all the necessary markings.

I can see it now when it shows up at a meet.

“Never had one.”

“Here’s a pic....”

As has been said, a period photo trumps nearly everything else.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
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4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:07 am Post subject:

Interesting photo. Standard civvy tailgate.
No reflector right side, obvious dents and dings here and there.

Thanks for sharing Wes. Any more of this unit?

Do you think they used a CJ5 or M38 surround?
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:10 am Post subject:

Sorry Bob! I see now it was your photo!!
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

M880 · Member Joined: Aug 20, 2019 Posts: 7

Here's the story I got from the seller.
He said his cousin had got it from a base in Oregon. It was 24volt he changed it to 12V. It had a windshield that had a slot down the middle and he chanced it to a 1 piece. Also on the id plate it say's M38A1C. I posted it over on another site, looks as if it would have had a cannon on it at one time.

wesk · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:53 am Post subject:

Where is Bob's Photo Brian is commenting on?
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

WillysMotors · Contributor Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 111

Thanks to Bob W for the photo. I suspect Bob has the report that went with it...

I also suspect the engineering/testing of the Tailgate was related to later use on the MD-A/M170 Ambulance.

The M38A1C body modification details are detailed on the TACOM drawings that are in the MVPA archive. As I recall the body mods were done after the Jeeps left the factory. Maybe I'm wrong. I just don't recall seeing any Willys or Kaiser drawing number references on the TACOM drawings.

keats · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:46 pm Post subject:

interesting that its described as a kit install
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Gary Keating
1949 C3A, 1952 M38,
1954 M170, 1957 Cj3B

wesk · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:32 am Post subject:

Yes Keith, the majority of the M38A1C conversions were done at the Army's Albany Depot.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:31 am Post subject:

That A1C would me much more valiuable restored as such.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php


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