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cjohle
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrmm, this is a '53. It is a CDN, not sure if that makes any difference.

Fuel tank isn't original. Doesn't even have a sending unit (much to my chagrin).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
The military tranny shifter tower has the boot clamped directly to the can structure and the lower 1/4th of the boot simply rides inside the hole in the floor pan. The boot on yours is the externally mounted boot for a civvy tranny. The pan below your boot for a civvy jeep has holes drilled in it for a retainer plate for that boot. The pan for the M38 & M38A1 has no screw holes drilled around the cane shaft hole and the military cane and it's boot projects through the hole in the pan.

A search of this board would have yielded this: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7717&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=


The tranny cane panel on this M38A1 floor has a rolled down edge in the opening and no retainer screw holes.


This illustration from your TM 8014 makes it very clear what you should have in your jeep.

From my M38 Parts sub-album:


The military tranny cover pan.


The military tranny cane boot


The military installation





Wes,

I researched a lot and didn't find the right clamps to fix the gearshift lever boot. (Letter G and J, in the illustration fig 56. TM 8014)

Can you help me with a picture of an original piece so that I can start searching local stores?

The manual shows the M38A1, but I mean finding the correct part for the M38.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lower manual illustrations are from the M38's TM 9-804.

If you read the Ord 9 SNL G-740 closely:

the smaller 3/4 " clamp ORD# 502911
very early M38 2 1/2" clamp ORD#502923 Supersedes to:
late M38 2 3/4" clamp ORD# 111627

If you reference the M38's ORD 8 SNL G-740:

ORD# 502911 is also listed as FSN 4730-542-3019 (NSN = 4730-00-542-3019)
ORD# 111627 is also listed as FSN 4730-278-2062 (NSN = 4730-00-278-2062)

Now if you google these FSN's and NSN's you will find that these evolve into several different MIL Spec clamps, the closest of which I found to original look was AN735 series



https://www.skygeek.com/air-force-navy-an735d40-clamp-aluminum.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Alexandre,
MWM advertises the larger (bottom) boot clamp here:

https://store.midwestmilitary.com/product-p/111627.htm

And I believe he also stocks the smaller (top) clamp as well.

Our other venerable MV parts vendors may stock them as well.

If need be, let me know and I'd be glad to photo and give measurements of the pair I bought from MWM. I believe they're fairly common vintage hose clamps, nothing much special about them --- unless you're in a jeep police judging contest? Shocked

Good luck!
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