Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:48 am Post subject: 1942 GPW Horn Wiring
Afternoon all.
Slightly off topic but have a question on wiring up the horn on my 1942 GPW. The electrical system is a 12V. I'm missing the horn mounting bracket and the wire to the horn terminal from the steering column bushing wire - the wire between the firewall and the horn terminal. I also have a 3rd terminal and wire - not quite sure what that's for but still working my way through some Ron Fitzpatrick videos.
I can order the mounting bracket but can't find that individual wire. What can I use right now for a field expedient connection so that I have a working horn - until I can acquire the correct wire?
Thanks!
Josh _________________ North Shore, MA
Santa Fe, NM
1942 GPW
1952 M38
1964 Apollo 5000 GT
Have you visited the parts manual for your GPW? The copy of the 1949 version of the ORD 9 SNL G-503 I have list's the wire from the junction block to the horn as WO# A5081 or Ford # GPW14409. Referenced is illustration Fig 06-9.
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 8:11 am Post subject:
Thanks Wes.
I was poking around in that manual but didn't see that part number. Until I get the right wire I thought I would grab one that would work from my local hardware store, just so I have a working horn for inspection and use.
Thanks. _________________ North Shore, MA
Santa Fe, NM
1942 GPW
1952 M38
1964 Apollo 5000 GT
Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 1997 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:00 pm Post subject:
Looking at the MB/GPW wiring diagram, I guess I don't understand the question. Horns have 2 connections, one is power, and the other is ground through the switch. Horn wiring couldn't be much simpler.
I have no clue what the "3rd terminal" you have might be, and you don't say where it is or otherwise describe it. More information (including photo's) might help generate useful answers.
I think most any 14 gauge wire from the auto parts store would work to get it up and running.
Good luck! _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
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Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject:
Ron,
I don't know what it's for. The only description I can provide is that it's not the two terminals used for power/ground to the horn. It's similar, on the other side of that part of the horn, and is threaded with a lock washer and nut on it. Seems superfluous for powering the horn.
I'll take a picture and share.
What I'm really looking for is the modern equivalent wire for the firewall-to-horn wire.
I don't want to send us down a rabbit hole either so I'll reach out to AJP where I got my horn from last year. I thought someone here might know.
Thanks all! _________________ North Shore, MA
Santa Fe, NM
1942 GPW
1952 M38
1964 Apollo 5000 GT
14 gauge is plenty for 12V horn, but you can get 12 gauge if it makes you feel better.
I'm guessing your 3rd terminal, unless it has an insulator on it, is a supplemental ground for the horn casing. Not shown on the wiring diagram I'm looking at. _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 643 Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 10:24 am Post subject:
Thanks Ron.
That's what I was wondering about. Also not sure of the length. From the Ron Fitzpatrick video it looks about 6-7 inches long. I'll need that for ordering the cloth-covered cable from your supplier link.
In the meantime, 14 gauge it is. Also, the additional terminal actually has a rounded flat-head screw. I misremembered. So you're probably right about what it's for.
Thanks again! _________________ North Shore, MA
Santa Fe, NM
1942 GPW
1952 M38
1964 Apollo 5000 GT
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