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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:26 pm Post subject: Data plate |
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Is there any instructions on how to renovate these labels to make them as colorful as they should be?
 _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div>
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Kendall Member

Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 346 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think some people (including myself) have used the following with slight variation.
Polish the high spots with 800 (or finer) grit wet/dry sandpaper on a sanding block. Paint the plates with black spray paint. Once the paint is thoroughly dry hit the high spots again with the 800 grit sandpaper on a sanding block. _________________ 1951 M38
1952 M38
1952 M38A1
1942 Dodge WC-55
1951 M100 trailer
1942 Ben Hur trailer |
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, I'll try it  _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:53 am Post subject: Data plates |
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Hello,
I bought new labels.
The large plate for assigning labels is missing.
They are right on the dashboard.
I don't have the circular hole on the dashboard
I thought it was sealed, but there is no sign of it on the back
Is it possible that some M38s did not have this circular cutout?
For example, made in Canada?
 _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Foto nových štítků
 _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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Kendall Member

Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 346 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:43 am Post subject: |
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The plates on the earlier M38's were screwed directly to the dash. It was with the later M38's where the data plates were riveted to a separate plate that was then screwed to the dash. This happened at serial number MC34347 (9/51- from Millers book). This plate covered the heater kit hole in the dash.
Kendall _________________ 1951 M38
1952 M38
1952 M38A1
1942 Dodge WC-55
1951 M100 trailer
1942 Ben Hur trailer |
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for exhausting answer  _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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wesk Site Administrator


Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16409 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is it possible that some M38s did not have this circular cutout? |
The hole was a requirement for a heater kit installation. Not all M38's came with that hole. The early M38's screwed each individual plate to the dash just right of the instrument cluster. The dataplate mounting plate was used on later M38s and placed in the same position. Yes it is mentioned when this change occurs in Ryan's book but it is also clearly shown in the M38 parts Manual ORD 9 SNL G-740 dated 1955 on page 338 ORD Part # 7412583. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, you helped me a lot. I wish everyone a beautiful summer from the heart of Europe  _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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JBJeep Member

Joined: Nov 16, 2021 Posts: 73 Location: NE Washington
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:06 pm Post subject: Allottadata |
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That's a lot of data...
I have flown aircraft with less information on the panel! _________________ 1955 M38A1 MD 82551
Former owner/restorer of 1977 CJ-5, stock with factory V-8.
Used as a daily driver for seven years. |
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JeepDrivingRay Member

Joined: May 09, 2022 Posts: 66 Location: Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Typically folks who fly planes know what they're doing. _________________ 61 M170 |
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RonD2 Member

Joined: Oct 02, 2014 Posts: 2060 Location: South Carolina, Dorchester County
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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No matter what I'm doing, I always know what I'm doing.
So far, anyway.
Doing it well is another matter.
I tend to trust pilots that have an equal number of take-offs and landings.
But that could be misplaced confidence.
Here's an early post about maybe 2 different styles of the Patent Plates.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1571
Good luck! _________________ Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51
“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I still have a question.
What kind of rivets should there be?
With a flat or semi-round head?
Steel or aluminum?
Thank you _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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wesk Site Administrator


Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16409 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Václav S.,
You do not say what serial number your M38 is but I see in your photos your data plates are fastened directly to the dash with 24 screws. This was the common practice up to sn MC34151. After MC34151 the individual plates were riveted to a support/mounting plate and the mount plate was attached to the dash with 4 screws.
Look closely at the referenced page 339 from the M38's parts manual ORD 9 SNL G-740 dated 1955. The type of rivets or screws as required are listed and described in great detail.
 _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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bighead Member

Joined: Sep 22, 2021 Posts: 59 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I have number 25359
That would fit the screws.
There is no picture in the instructions for the text.
So I wouldn't have discovered it myself.
So all that remains is to say thank you again!!!
 _________________ <div>Václav S.
</div><div>1951 M38
1967
</div><div>DKW-Munga F91/4</div> |
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