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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:00 pm    Post subject: Clutch release bearing support cast tab for return spring Reply with quote

I am replacing my clutch release bearing support. I ordered it from Rock Auto. The tab is located farther back on the new one compared to the old one.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one on the left is the new one, tab farther back (up in picture) compared to one on right. Which one is correct?

(Sorry for small image size. How do I post a larger image?)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you put a link to your photo album in your signature we can pop over to it easily.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pasted the correct photo link in your original post.

If you look carefully at the boards index you will see this:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index

This is the board you want to answer your question on how to post photos:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=9

As for the correct clutch adjustment sleeve take a look at your TM 9-8014 page232 figure 122.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Wes, I still don't see how to post a link to the full size picture from my album.

I have a copy of that manual on CD, I looked at that figure previously and it's pretty small and blurry, so I cant' quite make it out.

I'll try again: [img]http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album763&id=clutch_release_bearing_support_casting_return_spring_tab&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php[/img]
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one on the left looks like the one RFJP sells-
https://www.rfjp.com/p-2398-clutch-throw-out-bearing-and-carrier-945255.aspx


Kendall, I looked Joe's parts up:




Even though his part numbers aren't the actual Willys part numbers the casting number in the picture is the Willys casting number.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan, This should help clear up what you can't see.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that helps solve which one is correct the next move I suggest is buying a new spring since your old one was clearly overstretched for it's service life!

ORD PN 7371366 FSN 2510-368-2630 NSM 2510-00-368-2630 WO# 630117

Were there any casting numbers or stamped part numbers on your old carrier?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really just wanted to replace the bearing because it was slinging grease inside bell housing. Rock Auto had a good deal on bearing already installed on support. The tab on new one from Rock Auto is too far back, spring is too long fully collapsed. I intend to order a release bearing from Midwest Military because theirs looks to be fully sealed. Both of the ones I have are open towards the front side and therefore can sling grease. I believe the old support came with the clutch kit that I installed in 2009 when I rebuilt the transmission. The spring has good tension and I have had no problems with clutch, probably has less than 3000 miles on it.
[/img]http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/album763/clutch_release_bearing_support_casting_return_spring_new.sized.jpg[img]
[/img]http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/album763/clutch_release_bearing_support_casting_return_spring_old.sized.jpg[img]
New first and old second pic.[/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old carrier has 8 on top and Made In USA on bottom, nothing on new one.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That spring on your new carrier (top Photo) looks very loosely attached to the tranny. She looks like she can easily bounce off that end. If that's the spring that was on your old carrier then you definately need to order the correct length spring to go with your new carrier as I listed above.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks loose because it is just sitting on the tranny attach point for the picture, the tab on carrier or support is too far aft for the spring to hook up on the transmission and support at the same time. Looking at RFJP spring and Midwest military spring versus one I have the number of coils is the same at 10 each.
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