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32sbct
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Can this air cleaner be salvaged? Reply with quote

My jeep has not been together or run for over 40 years. I'm getting very close to starting it up after a full rebuild. I went to clean out the air cleaner element today and discovered that a mouse had set up shop in there at some point in time. As you can see in the picture I was able to bang out quite a bit of mouse debris. I kept at it till it stopped then rinsed it out with a full can of brake cleaner. My concern is that I doubt I was 100 % successful getting out every bit of that junk. My concern is that I'll be sucking mouse droppings into my intake and motor. So, my question is, can this still be used or is it time for a new one? Thanks, Marty.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just get another.

Having the peace of mind knowing that your air filter is clean and good is one less thing to bother you if something goes wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might take it to a car wash and blow the $&% out of it.

Clean well, dry thoroughly and oil.

That’s what I would do.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's an M38A1 then get another is affordable advice.

If it's a M38 then at well over $150 each NOS or used I would consider cutting the cannister open, cleaning it out and weld it shut again.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going out on a limb here, if the material is organic (Paper, feces and such); get a 5 gallon bucket and put the air cleaner in it, then cover with Clorox Bleach for a couple of days then wash out with a good rinsing.

I say use this as that is how hunters here in OK, clean deer skulls to hang on the wall. The bleach should not harm the metal in the filter,but eat the organics...

Please use all the proper cautions as this is a suggestion not a proper procedure.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few rather unorthodox methods to try to clean foreign material from an enclosed metal shavings filled filter in which the metal shavings are also oil soaked. Folks have even tried burning the foreign material out then refinishing the housing.

The only guaranteed method is to cut open and manually clean or replace.

There is one more option, convert the air cleaner to use a cartridge type dry air filter.



https://www.google.com/search?q=Conversion+of+Willys+air/oil+filter+to+a+dry+element+filter&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8psP62ZTbAhVKylMKHergCrkQ7AkISg#imgrc=_

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=R5oBW4SdBYayzwKLlYO4DQ&q=Conversion+of+Willys+air%2Foil+filter+to+a+dry+element+filter&oq=Conversion+of+Willys+air%2Foil+filter+to+a+dry+element+filter&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i160k1.1757074.1778235.0.1780539.60.57.0.2.2.0.326.6804.0j26j11j2.39.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..19.34.5617.0..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20i264k1j0i10k1j0i22i10i30k1j0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1.0.ueLB_ldG1qg

http://www.cj3apage.com/cgi-bin/3Ayabb26/YaBB.pl?num=1453929149/13
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New in the Box NOS M38 Air Filter Element $50 + shipping at:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M38-original-ELEMENT-w-GTK-seal-pkg-Jeep-Willys-G740/222967626611?hash=item33e9e7fb73:g:p6IAAOSwbM5a21KC
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looked up that part number...not in the M38 ORD 9. little searching comes up as a weasel number. didn't find a cross reference but it looks like an mb-m38 element.

found one for 35.00 on AJP site.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G179 Studebaker, Carrier, Cargo "Weasel" (rear engine, amphibious)

Absolutely nothing to do with a M38!
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies! Wes has certainly been clear about false advertising in the market we live in, and I didn't do my homework before posting. I'm guessing there's no chance that Uncle Sam made the same filter under two different part numbers? Nah, that's too much to guess about. And I forgot the tendency to shoot the messenger. Shocked

Sorry for confusing the post. Any Weasels out there? It's gotta be scarce for them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What surprised me Ron was that you actually thought that little gasket bag could contain a real M38 Oil Bath Aircleaner!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too!

I think the vendor posted some additional photos or maybe I missed them first go-around, and at the risk of sticking my neck out again ---- (and without a ruler to measure) it sure looks like it might could maybe be the same element the M38 uses?

It kinda looks like mine anyway. I sure hope I didn't say that out loud...Shocked

Maybe I have a Weasel element. Now I have to go look.

Thanks Wes!
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a good topic.
the weasel element in that post 7010518 is sold by vendors as the same as A5630...I can not find a cross reference

HAS ANYBODY RESEARCHED THIS ??? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This image was added recently to that Ebay Ad.



When I initially visited this EBAY Ad it only listed the three paper wrapping photos.



Here are all the numbers associated with this element. Not a single one led anywhere doing a google search on each one.

Quote:
M38 ORD 9 (1951 & 1955)
G503-0169093
0169093
OKS# 613387
WO# A5630
M38A1 ORD ( 1956)
G758-8330128 Element, Optional with OKS# 613387
8330128
UTS# B7785
WO# 119764
G503-0169093 Element, Optional with 8330128
0169093
OKS# 613387
WO# A5630
MB/GPW ORDE 9 (1949)
G503-0169093
0169093
OKS# 613387
WO# 5630
FM# GPW9617
Studabaker Weasel Package Markings
908320
2910-701-0518
OKS = Oakes Product Division (Houdaille-Hershey Corp)
UTS = United Air Cleaner Div. (United Specialties Co.)

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll buy one and compare...
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