M38A1 12/1953

[costecon]

Hello everybody.
I am in Greece and I have just acquired a M38a1 12/53 from a yard.
It was left untouched since the day it left the Greek army.

Some info :
1. Fenders with diagonal seam (pre 1953)
2. battery cover 8 thumbscrews
3. hinged grill
4. no supports on top of radiator.

I will keep you updated with my progress...

Regards
Kostas

[costecon]

Let Me properly introduce my project. I did some hood number "digging" and after 6 or 7 layers of paint I was successful.
S/N :67463 (front of passenger seat and tab behind passenger seat)
Del date:12/53
Hood number 20989745

1. Fenders with diagonal seam (pre 1953)
2. battery cover 8 thumbscrews
3. hinged grill
4. no supports on top of radiator.

Unfortunately, above the number everything was erased by a big "bare metal" --> rust scratch.
I managed to get the U.S. but it is missing. Based on the numbers and what I have read, I understand it should be U.S.A and not U.S.Army, but if any "grown up" can assist is more than welcome.

[wesk]

Here are a few photos from our web site's photo gallery that should enlighten you.

















U.S.A. was very common up thru th 1952 M38 production but I do not recall seeing a M38A1 with U.S.A..
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[costecon]

Thank you for your reply. I guess I was completely wrong...
Although I could identify clearly the numbers, I could not see the letters.
This was mainly because of bare metal scratches above the numbers and some sticker. The vehicle was full of reflector stickers under the last greek army camo paint. The coating under the camo was bright yellow. I guess it was used as a follow me airport vehicle at some point of its service life in Greek army. Tomorrow I will post some pics...

[costecon]

Hi everyone. I am starting taking things apart in preparation for sandblasting. I am struggling to identify the correct bolt description.
I found in the manual for example the bellow description: "BOLT, ASSEMBLED WASHER, int-teeth lock washer, hex-hd, header-pt, S, cd- or zn-pltd, 1/4- 20NC-2 x 5/8"

Can anyone explain to me especially the 1/4-20NC-2x5/8 part?

[costecon]

So let me give it a try :
1/4 bolt thread diameter
20 : threads per inch length
Nc: national coarse
2: strenght grade
5/8: length

So if I am correct I am only missing:
header-pt, S,

Regards

[wesk]

Those abbreviations and manufacturer's codes are listed on pages 5, 6 & 7 of your M38A1 parts manual ORD 9 SNL G-758.

Also there are several good web sites that explain the fasteners annotations in great detail:

https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/measuring/notation.aspx

https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/type-chart.aspx

http://www.boltscience.com/pages/glossary.htm

https://www.sizes.com/tools/thread_screw.htm

https://www.eaglefastener.net/technical/screw-point-styles.html

In the case of your example: BOLT, ASSEMBLED WASHER, int-teeth lock washer, hex-hd, header-pt, S, cd- or zn-pltd, 1/4- 20NC-2 x 5/8"

BOLT, ASSEMBLED WASHER: Abolt or screw with the washer prefitted and stays in place on it's own.

int-teeth lock washer: the type of washer attached to the bolt/screw

hex-hd: Type of head on the bolt/screw

header-pt: the type of point (header-point)

cd- or zn-pltd: The type of plating used. In this case Cadmium or Zinc.

1/4- 20NC-2 x 5/8" : Dimensional info for bolt/screw.

1/4 = 1/4" diameter

20 = 20 threads per inch.

NC = National Course a thread classification.

-2 = Tolerance standard:

[costecon]

Thanks for you detailed reply. I have some studying to do since I am familiar only with metric.
Regards

[4x4M38]

I only offer this as there may be a problem with translation if unexplained.

NC stands for National Coarse.

NF stand for National Fine.

The basic difference between the two is coarse threads have less threads per inch than fine threads for threads of the same fastener size/Diameter.

Take care,
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[costecon]

Thank you for your replies.

Please find bellow my 1st photo from the day I acquired my m38A1

[4x4M38]

Interesting “goodies” many folks don't get their projects.
You even have the horizontal rods for the bows!
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[wesk]

Note the two large hole, one at each end of the bumper! I am going to guess the Greek Army put them there for those little flag staff's.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

[costecon]

[4x4M38]

That latch on the tub to keep the passenger seat down was a common Army modification. It is a legitimate Motor Pool restoration detail.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

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