Top Rod Question

Scott21 · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: Top Rod Question

I have everything in properly for my top,(from researching everything) but, the rods keep popping out. They are the angle in one hole type. She is a 52 M38.

I know i am overlooking something.

Scott
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kenperkins · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:27 pm Post subject:

usually it's because the holes are out around from years of use..
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'51 M100 Dunbar
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'53 M100 Dunbar
M416b1
2- M762
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Scott21 · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 1:33 pm Post subject:

That makes sense, Ill see what I can rig up,,
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Kendall · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:50 pm Post subject:

I used a zip tie to secure the rod to the top bow.
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1951 M38
1952 M38
1952 M38A1
1942 Dodge WC-55
1951 M100 trailer
1942 Ben Hur trailer

cabinfever · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 5:11 pm Post subject:

MarkR1951M38 · Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject:

If you are talking about the rods that go from the windshield to the top bow supports, drill a small hole on the inside of the rod to put a cotter pin after the rod is put through the windshield frame or bow support.

Stick the rod in, mark the other side, and drill it. The cotter pin will hold it in.
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Scott21 · Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:49 am Post subject:

Just gong to use the zip tie for now, thanks for your replies.

Scott
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OKCM38CDN · Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:56 am Post subject:

On the M-38 the top rails are supposed to have holes and pins riveted to them to hold the top rails into the Windshield frame and Top Bow...

SNL 740; Page 327

P/N 7375324
CHAIN, w/RING and retaining PIN, assy (top rail)....
Composed of:
2 CHAIN
2 PIN
4 RING

This is also supported by this page from WeeBee Webbings website: http://odcloth.com/rodwork.html

Hope this helps...
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TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK

kenperkins · Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 1:13 pm Post subject:

early top bows did not use two chains per rod per 1951 ORD 9. hole in top bow was not drilled through... dont think I've ever seen one that was drilled through .
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'51 M38 #22936,
'51 M100 Dunbar
#01164782
'53 M100 Dunbar
M416b1
2- M762
MVPA #11788
MVCC LIFER

OKCM38CDN · Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 2:50 pm Post subject:

SNL dated 1955 is where I got my part numbers from, possibly a change to keep the tops on better...

I have drilled mine and put drive rivets in them to hold the chains on and have no problems with rod coming out. Was a good mod IMO...
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Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK

Scott21 · Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 6:09 am Post subject:

The windshield side stays in with the pin. The bow end pops out. Stays in with a wire tie.
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Scott

1952 M38 Photos at: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Scott21&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php


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