Willys M38 dash pannel clips

radtech · Member Joined: Aug 09, 2010 Posts: 198

Does anyone know what the two clips on the back side of the 1950 M38 dash pannel are for?I don't know how to post a picture of it.[/img]

RonD2 · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:27 am Post subject:

Not exactly sure what clips you're asking about, but guessing you mean the early M38 panel that has the circuit breaker mounted on one side and a wire management clamp mounted on the other side (both eliminated on the later panel).

Page 83 of the M38 Reference Guide (book) has a photo and if it helps, here's a link to a photo in Wes' photo album showing them:
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/album236/Cluster_rear_edited.sized.jpg

If you have a copy of the first edition of the M38 Operators Manual, TM9-804, September 1950 there's a photo (Figure 71 on page 175) that shows the circuit breaker mounted but the wire management clamp is missing (shows its mounting screws only).

Hope this helps.

I'd post a photo but think forum management still has everybody locked out from posting photos while they fix some file size issues.
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1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

wesk · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:26 am Post subject:

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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

radtech · Member Joined: Aug 09, 2010 Posts: 198

I had forgot i have a copy of the prototype manual and the dash lights and high beam indicator connectors are clipped into them I guess so they don't rattle around behind the dash.Also the prototype had shields over both drive shafts.

RonD2 · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:59 pm Post subject:

I assume by "prototype" you mean the first 6 pilot models used for testing?
The M38 Reference Guide (book) calls them "prototype" models but the captions on the Army photographs in the Guide call them "pilot" models.
Six of one, half-dozen of the other I suppose.

Could be mistaken, but don't believe the pilot models had a separate manual.
Pretty sure the September 1950 Army manual TM9-804 covered all production M38's until that manual was replaced by TM9-8012 in January 1956.

Never heard that any M38 had shields or guards on the drive shafts.
I recall reading somewhere that some CJ "farm jeeps" had them to keep hay from wrapping around the driveshafts while in the fields.

Can you point us to a reference about driveshaft shields on the M38?
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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

radtech · Member Joined: Aug 09, 2010 Posts: 198

Pilot vehicle manual.Not a numbered manual.

RonD2 · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:32 pm Post subject:

Do you have a copy you can share with us?
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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

wesk · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:05 pm Post subject:

It was published by Willys as a courtesy manual for the Army while testing the 6 prototypes.

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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

RonD2 · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:08 pm Post subject:

Thanks Wes.
Where to find a copy?
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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

radtech · Member Joined: Aug 09, 2010 Posts: 198

That's it.Mine is 2365481 same contract and ORD number.The stock number is over stamped 8358318

wesk · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:30 pm Post subject:

Your registration number is a standard production M38 and the above manual is not applicable to it. You are required to use the correct TM's for yours. It can always serve as a gee wiz reference.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

wesk · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:39 pm Post subject:

Ron & Radtech here's a cloud link where you can download a copy: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AqEz4MqcTZDBgtxvxvo90KptWHI8NA?e=JHfW23
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

RonD2 · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:10 pm Post subject:

Thank you Wes. Much appreciated.
That's a very high quality download (240mb, 117 pages).
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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

radtech · Member Joined: Aug 09, 2010 Posts: 198

I have all the manuals from the Pilot Vehicle and Sept. 1950 9-804 and all manuals through 1956.The only one I am missing is SNL G740 1951.

wesk · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:46 pm Post subject:

I have it in paper. I'll see if I can find any digital copies.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php


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