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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:59 pm Post subject: M38a1 steering box question |
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Developed a lot of slop in my steering box so I went to replace the bushings. Pulled the sector shaft and it's in bad shape and slightly bent. Seems hard to find a new one, but I do have quite a few steering boxes off cj2's. The shaft and worm gear are different, but the box looks like it bolts right up. Anyone ever do this swap? Also will my brand new steering wheel fit the steering shaft? _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16299 Location: Wisconsin
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BullRun Member
Joined: Mar 10, 2009 Posts: 459
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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While not inexpensive you can still get NOS steering boxes, steering columns etc. for the M38A1 |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Think I might just try and find a new or replacement sector shaft. Anyone know where a guy could find one? _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: |
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So I found a new shaft from Willys Acres...
The overall length and diameter of the shaft is the exact same.
However, The center to center of the pins are 1.5" and not 2" like my old one.
Think it will still work? _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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image hosting _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Only thing different is the pin to pin
screenshot on pc _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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just got home and checked it, doesn't fit the worm gear.
Will the steering shaft from another jeep fit an M38A1 box? _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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ocwd Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: Placentia, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:21 pm Post subject: Sector Shaft |
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I have one that I would sell for $100 plus shipping. Looks unused with some surface rust. Has the 1 1/2" spacing like your original. This one came with a pile of M38A1 surplus parts I picked up a couple of years ago.
Dave |
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ocwd Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: Placentia, CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Measured one of mine with the calipers and the shafts are 7/8". Won't work for you.
Dave |
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oreo3156 Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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need one with the pins 2" apart _________________ 53 m38a1 63 cj3b |
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skyjeep50 Member
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:24 am Post subject: |
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M38A1 sector shafts are hard to come by as you have discovered. I found one on ebay a while back, came with the steering box. It's now in the jeep and steering has improved but is still somewhat loose. Others have suggested on these forums that the sector shaft pins can be pounded out, turned 90 degrees and put back in (by a machine shop) so the unworn parts of the pin face the worm. That's what I'm going to do to my extra (and very worn) shaft. Cost is a factor but maybe a local machine shop can repair and renovate your existing shaft if you can't find a replacement. New bushings, bearings and seals are available for the steering gear box. _________________ 1951 M38 |
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