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BCA
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: What they forget to tell you about repro parts Reply with quote

A friend went to a lot of trouble to find a correct (and hard to find) M38A1 fuel sending unit. It didn't fit: the float rod slammed up against the wall of his tank: his brand new repro tank. Someone forgot to mention that they (I assume MD Juan) realigned the mounting flange to accept the commonly reproduced M151 fuel sending unit which of course would have to be completely reworked for length of main shaft and length of float rod for the geometry to work.
Any more repro horror stories? ........ Brian
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of those pieces of junk. Do a search here and read up on all I had to do, and still failed. I feel for you. John
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here - long rant will come up with a quick search. We post on here to keep people from making the same mistakes that we did. I hate to be the one to say it, because I hate to hear it myself - SEARCH and research. It has all been covered here many times before.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: repro parts. Reply with quote

I agree. There sure are a lot of junk repro parts out there. I'm in the process of cleaning up My flywheel. When I was installing the new pilot bushing it fell right on through the flywheel. I compared it to an older used one and the older one had both a larger outside diameter and a lot better fit on the transmission shaft. Yes - I know I ordered the correct one for my jeep. I guess quality control doesn't exist anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same for omix spring bushings - fall right through the spring instead of press fit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me started on offshore waterpumps!! Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: repro parts Reply with quote

Kinda gives You a warm and cozy feeling of accomplishment doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RICKG wrote:
Don't get me started on offshore waterpumps!! Mad


Been there too - and don't forget the body panels!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good one: a commonly available repro M38A1 carburator kit has the tiny hole for the pin that holds the metering rod into the diaphragm drilled vertically instead of horizontally(as original). This means that it is very easy to lose the pin as you install the metering rod and diaphragm into the side of the carburator. Not such a big problem if the carb is one the bench but very annoying if you are working on the carb while it is installed. .......... Brian
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kit John at Midwest sells has the hole horizontal in the metering rod diaphragm shaft for the metering rod.
See large illustration here:
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/album83/Midwest_kit_labeled.jpg

The kit that Ron F sells also has the hole horizontal.
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/album83/Ron_s_kit.jpg

Whose kits are you having the hole issue with?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:

Whose kits are you having the hole issue with?


I'm pretty sure it is one of the overseas repro kits (prob Omix) like the ones sold on eBay for half the price of the dealer kits. They are half price because they are "factory seconds". Any idea where Midwest's and Ron's kits manufactured Wes?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the carburator kit with the different metering jet pin orientation, I did not specify the brand because it comes from a generally reliable wholesaler and otherwise these kits have worked well for me. The orientation of the hole can be annoying but not critical to the functioning of the kit.
......... Brian
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another issue: most of the currently available points capacitors have a removable fastening band - probably to make them more universal. The OEM capacitor has a small welded mounting tab; makes for a very easy installation. I'm glad I had the distributor on the bench when I tried to install the current style with the removable band since it was a struggle to fit it into place. ....... Brian
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilfreeman wrote:
RICKG wrote:
Don't get me started on offshore waterpumps!! Mad


Been there too - and don't forget the body panels!


I took that barely used offshore waterpump to the IMVPA
rally last weekend and I swear, no kidding, I couldnt GIVE IT AWAY!!
Those who know just shook their head and walked away. It was unceremoniously left there in the dumpster..
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