OD or Black- Air cleaner & Brackets

Jeff_Lee

I just bought an NOS M38 air cleaner for my M38 MC-23923.
It has all the correct bells, whistles and vent fittings for an M38, so I think I scored. It still has all the cosmoline saturated fiber tape covering up the openings.
But.... it is BLACK?? I thought everything is OD!!??
Then I sand back my Air cleaner brackets, and they are black, too.... but they might not be original M38
Can't find any guidance in Miller's M38 Reference Guide on paint colors. And photos I can find have OD or black.
Anyone have a "difinative opinion" on what is correct? Any other parts that should be black?
Thanks,
Jeff
PS: I bet WESK has a color guide somewhere on the forum and I couldn't find it!
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1951 M38 restoration project - Flightline Jeep MC 23923 DoD 6-51
1954 M-100 Trailer USMC Dunbar Kapple s/n M-750759 DoD 1-54
1947 Willys CJ2A - Harvest Green
1954 Ford F-100 Parts chaser - blueprinted Y-Block
Southeast Florida

wesk · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:20 am Post subject:

I usually do my searches with Google and not our web sites internal search engine.

If you GOOGLE "M38 underhood paint colors" These are the first hits you get:

Jeff_Lee · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:53 am Post subject:

Thanks Wes.

Great tip on using GOOGLE for search. I am often frustrated with the number of hits you get with the forum search.
Thanks again,
Jeff
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1951 M38 restoration project - Flightline Jeep MC 23923 DoD 6-51
1954 M-100 Trailer USMC Dunbar Kapple s/n M-750759 DoD 1-54
1947 Willys CJ2A - Harvest Green
1954 Ford F-100 Parts chaser - blueprinted Y-Block
Southeast Florida

4x4M38 · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am Post subject:

Air cleaner color:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=search&mode=results
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

wesk · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject:

Take a look at M38 factory production line photos:

Certainly looks like black on both the M38 & the CJ!

If you took note this M38 is before sn MC20600. It has the firewall mounted radio ignition noise filter. And it even has the early Aux Power Plug just to the right of the noise filter.

Here's a larger more detailed photo file:
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/Historic-Vintage-Photos/3_G.jpg
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:24 pm Post subject:

Terrific comparison between the CJ3A firewall
and early version 1 M38 firewall!

Note the battery drain hose and speedo cables
waiting for completion, and many screws and
bolts are unpainted.

Those factory photos in the photo pages are priceless.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Jeff_Lee · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:50 pm Post subject:

Jeff_Lee · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:54 pm Post subject:

I concur with Brian... Wes' reference photos are unmistakable. The brackets came out of the same bin as the CJ's.
Wouldn't want to mess with the gal working on the CJ....

Thanks for the photo Wes,
Jeff
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1951 M38 restoration project - Flightline Jeep MC 23923 DoD 6-51
1954 M-100 Trailer USMC Dunbar Kapple s/n M-750759 DoD 1-54
1947 Willys CJ2A - Harvest Green
1954 Ford F-100 Parts chaser - blueprinted Y-Block
Southeast Florida

Jeff_Lee · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject:

Also of interest when I looked at the larger image, it is interesting the mix of Military, CJ, and even an auto (see door open on end of the line) all moving down the same assembly line. Maybe a Kaiser Deluxe or Aero???

These woman would be good to get the high mix assembly correct... or maybe they didn't....

Sure wish my sheet metal looked like the M38 in the foreground. These jeeps left the factory pretty straight!

Jeff
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1951 M38 restoration project - Flightline Jeep MC 23923 DoD 6-51
1954 M-100 Trailer USMC Dunbar Kapple s/n M-750759 DoD 1-54
1947 Willys CJ2A - Harvest Green
1954 Ford F-100 Parts chaser - blueprinted Y-Block
Southeast Florida

4x4M38 · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:55 pm Post subject:

That’s the Willys factory. So, all Willys
vehicles!

Yes, I saw all the straight, smooth sheetmetal
also!

Try this:

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=search&mode=results

If not, I just typed in
Air cleaner color
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

w30bob · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:19 am Post subject:

Hi Guys,

Ok, this is probably a stupid question..........but weren't the M38's made from 1949 to 1952? Or more simply......weren't they made AFTER the war? So why are all the folks in the pics women? Didn't all the men come back after the war and resume the jobs they had in the Willys plant before the war? I don't see a single guy in the pic.

regards,
bob

wesk · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:27 am Post subject:

M38 production was Sep 1950 thru Jul 1952. That photo was a very small segment of the production line and it was a light duty section for wiring & etc. It was not uncommon at all in the 50's & 60's to see women working on assembly lines in all industries.

There were plenty of men working that same production line.

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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:18 am Post subject:

These were all taken about the same time. All the M38 tubs have the
early firewall.

Last pic. Two CJ3A tubs followed by an M38.

They just ran them in all together!
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Xamon · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:14 am Post subject:

not to mention many factories did not want to give up the women who were often more productive and did a better job than many of the men, often for less pay.
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Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album210&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

keats · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:16 am Post subject:

It looks like the canvas door rope guide was black also?
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Gary Keating
1949 C3A, 1952 M38,
1954 M170, 1957 Cj3B


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