M 38 24 volt spark plugs

GeorgeMcKenzie · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: M 38 24 volt spark plugs

My jeep has two different type spark plugs .A Champion #XM-17 , MS 35909 and a Champion X-?17 , 909-2 .The second one I'm not too sure what the numbers are The first one is longer with only one nut on it .The second one has two nuts on it .They are both threaded at the top for the spark plug wires . Are these plugs still for sale ? If not how do you put the spark plug wires to a new type plug ?

Zane · Member Joined: Jul 01, 2007 Posts: 158

yes they are, should be autolite 2243 plugs in m38 and 2245 for m38a1 but 2245's will work fine in an m38 I sell brandnew production autolite 2245's for 10.00 each plus 5.60 shipping for up to 8 plugs

wesk · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject:

The XM17 (MS35909) is a resistor type 18 mm 1/2" reach some of which came with a 7/8" hex and some with a 11/16" hex.

The XMJ17 (MS35909-2) is a resitor type, shielded 5/8" - 24, 14 mm 3/8" reach plug with a 13/16" hex.

Most of these have been discontinued by Champion same as the many other branks of plugs that meet those MS35909 series spec.

The Auto-lite 2243 is correct for the M38 and the 2245 is correct for the M38A1. I have found these for $6.45 each at my local auto-parts stores.

I might point out here that Portrayal Press sells the "Army Vehicle Parts Guide" originally put together in the 80's by Dennis R. Spence. Dennis was a very regular contributor to the Army Times back then and most of the parts reference charts in this book were often submitted by him to Army Times.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Zane · Member Joined: Jul 01, 2007 Posts: 158

6.45 thats cheaper than my wholesale price , id like to know where your getting them as all the other jeep vendors are 8.50-9.75 for the 60 yr old nos ones and theres a difference in 60 year old sparkplugs and current production . The local napa store gets 13.00 each for plugs.

Bill_F · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject:

Cheapest I have seen them is about $7.45 each.

On another note while at the weare show someone mentioned that he had adaptors that let him run regular J8's in his m38. Anyone know where to get them? i would love to run a plug I can get locally.

wesk · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject:

If I told

you I would have to terminate you!!

I won't disclose the name of the dealer. I do not wish to be a party to any price fixing or low guy strong arming! Wink

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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Zane · Member Joined: Jul 01, 2007 Posts: 158

they make military adapters to run civilian sparkplugs , they are however hard to find and expensive when you find them, Kevin Emdee at Star electric did have a few sets im not sure if he has anymore left or not seems like they were around 100-150.00 a set back 6 or 7 years ago.

Bill_F · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:56 am Post subject:

Doing a little searching on the net I have found them between 7.45 and 8.50 each. I wish I could get them as cheap as Wes can.

brimac · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:59 am Post subject:

Try rockauto.com search by part # . If you buy other parts
at the same time the shipping keeps the price down.
Brian
Ps They have 10% off email offers sometimes

wesk · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:07 am Post subject:

It is quite simple to run convential civvy J8C spark plugs using standard Packard automotive high tension spark plug wires or in fact any 4 cylinder plug wire set with a metal core and long enough leads. You may have to shop around for the larger lead to cap boots. You remove the shielded leads from the cap and insert and seal the auto type leads. Shouldn't cost you more than $20.

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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Bill_F · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject:

Wes,

I may have to try that. It would be a lot cheaper than running the stock plugs and wires. Any idea what plug wire set may work?

wesk · Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject:

I used to scratch build using selected individual components and Packard 440 wire. You can take your cap and a plug to your store and test fit untill you find the best fit or go the way I did and build your own set from select components and top shelf wire.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

SteveJ · Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject:

This thread got me thinking (dangerous at the best of times) I was at my local NAPA store and gave them the Auto-lite 2243 number and to my surprise I had a new set of four a few minutes later. They were $12.50 a piece but that was CDN and there was no shipping involved so a great deal for me. It just goes to show that sometimes you dont have to go too far afield to find what you need.

Thanks guys. Smile

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SteveJ
1986 CDN Armstron MT500 dispatch Motorcycle
1986 arrow 1.75 t cargo trailer
1991 Reynolds Boughton RB44 GS TUH
1952 M38 CDN W/W (Sold)
1953 M100 CDN Trailer
1951 PE95K Genset (Sold)

espurgeo · Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject:

Here is another way to get the plugs you need. I bought a new set of spark plugs a few years back. The prices have gone up a bit but aren't as bad as some people were reporting (upwards of $18 each). Here are the links depending on which ones you need/want.

2243 Autolite Traditional Spark Plug $8.75 each
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HDFEVU?ie=UTF8&tag=spurgeontechnolo&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000HDFEVU

Autolite 2243 Copper Core Shielded Spark Plug $8.93 each
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ET5SEA?ie=UTF8&tag=spurgeontechnolo&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000ET5SEA

2245 Autolite Traditional Spark Plug $8.75 each
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HDDJ5I?ie=UTF8&tag=spurgeontechnolo&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000HDDJ5I

Autolite 2245 Copper Core Shielded Spark Plug $8.93 each
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ET0RLE?ie=UTF8&tag=spurgeontechnolo&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000ET0RLE

Good luck
Eric Spurgeon ('51 M-3 Cool

Scott21 · Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject:

Wes,

I got my plugs fron the same source. I'm not talking, but they try to get me to buy the lot of em.

Scott


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