24 VOLT EARLY STARTER

hillbilly21 · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: 24 VOLT EARLY STARTER

RESTOREING EARLY M38 4-51 RAN LIKE A CHAMP STARTED IF I JUMPED IT ..ANYHOW HOOKED EVERYTHING UP WENT AND INSTALLED LAST BATTERY CABLE AND THE STARTER STARTED HUMING AND GOT HOT..

I NEED EITHER A REBUILT EARLY STARTER
MBP-4301UT ( BULL NOSE STYLE )

OR IF YOU GUYS NOW SOMEONE WHO REBUILDS THEM AS I WILL SHIP IT TO THEM.....LOCAL MAN HERE WONT TOUCH IT DUE TO 24 VOLT..THANKS

Sam-Helm · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject:

Hillbilly,

We have a place here in Tidewater called Browning's Starter and Alternator Exchange (I think). They have done 24 volt work for me in the past. Their prices are not too high, and they are fairly quick. I can save you some shipping cost, because I am planning to contact you about some M38A1 stuff again, anyway. Let me check with them to make sure they can do a rewind (I am sure they can), and I will call you later in the week with some information.

Sam
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wesk · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:52 pm Post subject:

You can rebuild it yourself using the manual excerpts loaded on out Downloads page. Are you saying it humms and gets hot without engaging the kick start switch?
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hillbilly21 · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: starter

Yes WES it started humming when I hooked up the battery cable ...

I then made sure the switch wasnt stuck ahead which it wasnt ..from there I
noticed it was getting hot towards the rear end of it..Before I started resto I made sure of the engine works..compression , oil pressure etc I had to jump start it as the batterys where shot..anyhow acquired 2 2hn batterys over the weekend wanted to start it to make sure everything was 100 % before I started to paint the body parts ...

I honestly dont have time to rebuild it as between work and the farm here no time just sundays for myself Rolling Eyes

I will e-mail ya SAM thanks..

BullRun · Member Joined: Mar 10, 2009 Posts: 459

If it doesn't work out in Tidewater I know of another shop in VA that will do it. About a 1 week turn around. Probably about $150. Let me know if you need them.

wesk · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject:

If electricity is making it into the starter when you connect the battery cable and you have not engaged the kick start switch then your kick start switch is shorted internally. You may only need a new kick start switch on top of the starter.

When you step on the start kick pedal the lever movement first pushes the pinion gear into full engagement with the flywheel then the electrical contacts are forced closed and then electricity goes to the starter.
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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hillbilly21 · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: 24

I totally agree with you WES.. BUT bendix is worn pretty good and it did get hot also ...Would like to get it rebuilt and possibly find another complete starter to have as a spare

wesk · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:05 am Post subject:

Heat came from letting spin so long. Starter limits are 30 seconds on and 15 seconds off. The Bendix drive wear is usually limited to the bushings which are serviceable. If you are basing your wear indicator on the rounded edges of the pinion gear teeth that is not an issue.

The early starter is the hardest to find either replacements or replacement parts for. It is also the most expensive of the two starters.
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

hillbilly21 · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: 24v

FOUND NOS...to replace old one then get it rebuilt and have a spare..

THANKS GUYS FOR THE INPUT


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