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Are these from a military Jeep or are they a bubba thing.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Are these from a military Jeep or are they a bubba thing. Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To my knowledge those are unique to a M-38 CDN... some units had them installed on the fames to allow rail transport of their vehicles...

I believe there were 4 of those on the frame and then one under each spring at the U bolts...

I made and added a set to my M-38 CDN...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you are saying that I will have to fabricate six more of these for my wife's M38?
I will have to think on that one, do I get rid of the two I have and not mention it,
or do I fabricate six more and tell her how much I love her and that no job is
too big for her jeep! Shocked
I guess it is a bit of a stretch since she already knows me! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toss them and if she finds out ,hope she loves you enough to understand and forgive you ! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never toss. Always just misplace where the wife is concerned. Then if the topic ever comes up you can simply say, "Yes I seem to remember seeing them during the rebuild but for life of me I have no idea where they are. "

If she dismisses the issue without prejudice you win. If she insists on having them ask her to help you find them and hopefully she will find them, you put them on and voila, You Win Again!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Pat,

These tie downs are Canadian military specs and I've always heard that M38CDNs went to Cyprus with Canadian peacekeepers were equipped with them. Four were installed on the frame but I'm not sure if there were other under each spring at the U bolts. I believe that OKCM38CDN is right because I vaguely remember seeing tie downs at these places. I'll check on my first M38CDN pictures and put them on the forum.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again me,

The picture under shows where were the tie downs on my first M38CDN. When I sandblasted the frame I removed the tie down that was ahead the clutch pedal.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were these in addition to the original style four tiedowns for extra securing capability or did Canadian railways have a problem with the original US setup which worked quite well for for over 20 years on the M38 and M38A1 series produced without change from 1950 thru 1971?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my M-38 CDN. has the original style tie downs like the U.S. model. my understanding is that for overseas shipping there were tie downs attached to the spring mounts. i've not seen these particular tie downs before
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
...Were these in addition to the original style four tiedowns for extra securing capability...

U.S. tiedowns remained on the frame even if the Canadian ones were installed. I think it was an extra security but I'm not sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent photo, thanks
Now I know where to place these, just have to fabricate two more.

Oh, and misplacing things in my garage would not be a lie, I am still finding parts that I never knew I had.

This is just the downstairs!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look at "AXE" post. Looks like he made a strap
with a hinge loop like yours for his axe. Perhaps he
could make yours also?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No thanks Very Happy
That stuff looks like 1/8"
My strap was hard enough to work at 16 guage with the limited tools I have.
If it were me and was going to fab some, I'd find some tubing and weld it to some 3/16" or 1/4" strap. Thats if you dont care about being 100%. The D-rings should be failry easy to round up. You'd either have to open them up somehow and and close them back up into the tube or cut them in half at the eye then put the legs in the tube then weld the eye back together. Then dress the weld.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no issues with fabricating, I seem to do it almost every night in the shop.
A few of the itmes fabricated in my shop:




The tie down "D" rings will be a snap, actually I think it is 3/16ths.

Thanks for all the info, it is a good day when you learn something new.

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