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WillysMotors
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PowerMWT,
Yes, the post 1945 BOM design documents changes more clearly. Perhaps you can discuss this at Tower Park with Joe Friday. |
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wesk
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Actually that's an MD3 ground power unit. It has a horizontal opposed Continental engine driving three 28 volt generators and one 208 volt three phase alternator. The C-26 vehicle number is what I was used to seeing on them and the yellow is the correct color. The F86 was a 28 volt aircraft and the engine was started by the F86 engine's 28VDC starter-generator.
The OD wheel wells are quite obvious and easier to discern then those I posted above with the dirt in them. No one has noticed the OD wheel?
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RICKG
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| evanso1975 wrote: | Cool photo  , well spotted RICKG!
My tired eyes won't let me see that jeep serial number; is it N-4333?
Looks like that jeep has OD inside the wheelarches, and an OD rear wheel.  |
Owen noticed it 
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Jim
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RickG. Nice pic of the 'Dog'
We had one on a pylon at the ANG base in Fort Smith
for years, but it's gone now.
Jim in Darkest Arkansas |
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RICKG
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Jim wrote: | RickG. Nice pic of the 'Dog'
We had one on a pylon at the ANG base in Fort Smith
for years, but it's gone now.
Jim in Darkest Arkansas |
Back in the early '60s F86's were being "retired" to pylons across the country. One of my greatest memories is of my Boy Scout troop being
the Honor Guard as the Sabre was hoisted up on it's pylon in my
hometown (also known at the time as "the Gateway to Williams AFB")
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Powermwt
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| WillysMotors wrote: | Well it's been about 7 years since we last discussed this. Wes and Ryan have been quietly collecting data in the interim.
I believe it is now safe to say that Willys made M38's in OD 2430, Strata Blue, and Marine Corps Green - from the Toledo Factory ! 
Here is the Master index calling out the BOM number.
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Does the paint specification list any stencils for stars, or just for the hood number?
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Scrapyard
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| Bill_F wrote: | | Also here are the photos of my jeep while I was working on it. |
Is that "Strato Blue" over "Red Primer"?
And if that is the case does this mean that factory blue M38 had a red primer base coat, while the Army Jeeps received only two layers of oliv green paint?
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Bill_F
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| What you see in my photos is red paint over the blue. |
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wesk
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| Bill_F wrote: | | What you see in my photos is red paint over the blue. |
Thanks... and another question. What about the frame and axles? Black base coat under blue?
My M38 body is Strato Blue on bare metal and I found remains of blue on the frame but not a single spot was black. |
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Bill_F
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| My frame had been repainted when I got it. However I did find some places they missed and it was blue. My diffs appear to have been blue at some point as well. |
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BullRun
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My M38 appears to have blue front fenders and a blue battery box. The tub does not appear to be blue or have blue paint anywhere.
It has almost 62 years of original paint layers so more excavating will be required. |
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evanso1975
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Here's another shot of that M38 RICKG found (well done Rick.  ):
Looks like it's N-1333.
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RICKG
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Smoke Ring 1.. I like it!! I see you archived it in the vintage photos section, good idea. I wonder if we can get the other photo there also,
i've tried but am at a loss to do so. Good find Owen!!
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evanso1975
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I wonder if we can get the other photo there also |
I've now dropped a copy of that one in there too.
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