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GregS
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Emergency brake cable link Reply with quote

Hello all,

I am missing this part but, it does not appear too hard to fabricate. Could anyone advise the approximate length? It is for an M38 and is the part that hooks to the bracket on the crossmember to keep the emergency brake lever assy. retracted.




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Actually it hooks on the tab on the underside of the tub.





X is the spring which attaches to the tab on the underside of the tub and W is the link that connects to the end of the handbrake cable link.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg,

Mine was missing too, so that is an excellent question.

Some of the guys on here should be able to measure one for us.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this is not a real "hot" topic like paint, but I just wanted to get it back to the top for people to see.

Maybe we can get a response. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine had a spring with a long end on it...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Searched and researched with no joy so I'm bumping this 11 year old question to the top in hopes for an answer. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should work. Photo is of my M38 setup.





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonD the clip link connects to the bellcrank and the spring. The spring connects directly to the tab on the tub.



X is the spring
W is the link
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10-4 !

Thanks !
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of those M38 manual discrepancies apparently. It is shown in both ways of assembly. I used the manuals putting my M38 together and remembered seeing these pictures in the maintenance and the engine/clutch manuals.





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary, I agree, an obvious discrepancy. Two photographs saying one thing versus a drawing and an exploded diagram saying another? Scale tips to the photos I think. And either way, it's an easy enough switch should the jeep police show up Shocked. The important missing piece (the dimensions of the link) I'm thankful you supplied ! I'll be making one this weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron,
Be sure and temper the material or use something that is not soft
like spring material.

If not, it will deform and pull out the curved part and poof. No more
spring.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all uncommon but I would go with the later illustration from the 1956 ORD 9. The illustrations Keats shows are both from the early editions of the TM which used for the most part CJV35 and Pilot model M38 photos.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the top drawing on my post is from the June 1951 manual.

The bottom drawing on my post is from the Jan. 1956 maintenance manual and the same drawing is in the Sept 1950 manual.

But I agree with RonD2 and you. It really doesn't matter much which way the assembly was meant to be put together and its a 10 second fix to reverse it. Works either way. I guess my only reasoning for putting the link on the body bracket besides the manual drawings is that its of heavier thickness making it "possibly" less prone to break due to friction and movement on the sharp edge of the bracket.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an NOS spring and link for my 51 M38---at some point the link came off of the tab and was lost. The spring was still hanging on the clip on the E-brake clip.

Knowing this, I would go with the long spring set up if you are driving and using your M38.
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