Help with Dzus fittings

32sbct · Member Joined: May 09, 2011 Posts: 166

My M38 jeep reproduction body came with the instrument panel installed with four bolts and nuts. My original instrument panel has Dzus fittings. I'd like to install the original but I'm not sure how to proceed.

Currently there are four 3/8" holes drilled in the body for the bolts. I have the correct Dzus fittings but I can't figure out how they install on the body. Any help would be appreciated. I tried an internet search but the type of Dzus fittings they showed are not the kind used on my jeep. Thanks, Marty

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:34 pm Post subject:

Marty,
There are clips that go into the holes, then the dzus
pin goes into the gauge panel and into the clip.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject:

Here are some on eBay.
The flat side goes towards the gauge panel.
It mounts behind the dash.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Dodge-GMC-M38-M38A1-M37-Instrument-Panel-Screw-with-Clips-Deutz-Fastner-/232746448035
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

32sbct · Member Joined: May 09, 2011 Posts: 166

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:20 pm Post subject:

Hi Marty,
The pin goes through the gauge panel, into
the clip, the pins line up with the two open
slots. A half turn twist tightens it all up.

The clip fastens to the dash from behind.
There should be slight depressions in the dash
where the middle of the three clips on each end
go on the front side.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

keats · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject:

if I remember correctly, there is a small indentation in the center of the hole on the dash. the middle tang of the clip fits into this indent and the other two go on the other side of the dash panel. do this on one side of the clip then you need to pinch the clip to fit it into the other side of the hole. spring pressure holds the clip in place.

the middle tang is on one side of the dash panel and the other two are on the other holding the clip in place.

make any sense?
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Gary Keating
1949 C3A, 1952 M38,
1954 M170, 1957 Cj3B

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:29 pm Post subject:

Probably better explained than I did.

Here’s a Wes photo. The two clips are
installed on the left side but not the right:

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album76&id=IMG_5997_7_1&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

keats · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject:

took awhile but found this photo.

http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/Gary-Keating/instruments.jpg
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Gary Keating
1949 C3A, 1952 M38,
1954 M170, 1957 Cj3B

32sbct · Member Joined: May 09, 2011 Posts: 166

That's a big help. Now I've got it! Thanks to all.

4x4M38 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:39 pm Post subject:

Good job Gary!
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

wesk · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:11 pm Post subject:

You must hold it thus:

and use a pair of pliers to bent/pinch it together so it gets narrow enough to fit into the hole.

After it is installed it will look like this:

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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

4x4M38 · Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 6:49 am Post subject:

I’d love to see the dies that’s formed on!
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

dpcd67 · Member Joined: Nov 25, 2016 Posts: 187 Location: Iowa

I just installed one today; it is intuitive how they fit; I used needle nosed pliers and squeezed it from the back with the one prong in the detent until the other prong popped into the opposite one. The are springy and it fit well.

cabinfever · Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:27 am Post subject:

I wish I would have known this weekend that I was suppose to squeeze the clip to insert it. I tried bending one of the center tabs so it would fit through the hole in the dash panel, thinking I would bend it back after it was inserted. I ended up breaking the tab off, of course. So, I reached around the bottom of the dash panel and held the clip in place when I tightened the screw. That worked, but the clip is going to fall to the floor the next time I remove the instrument panel.

Anyone have a spare Deutz clip laying around?
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Steve Stark - 1955 M38A1 MD #85388

Member - MVPA #35153
Member - Red Bull Historic Military Vehicle Association

LTDan · Member Joined: Oct 13, 2017 Posts: 32

I just bought a set from Quarter Ton Military off ebay, 12 bucks for a set of 4 plus shipping.

Willyskaiser also has them as well as Midwest military.

Also send a PM to Halfbob he has a few I believe.


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