Accelerator Pedal Hinge Spring

RonD2 · Last edited by RonD2 on Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:41 pm; edited 1 time in total

Original missing in action. Going to install my new gas pedal hinge spring (WO-650483, G503-7371454, ORD9 Page 88 ) and can't find a photo in any of the TM's that show how it's oriented. The spring isn't symmetrical, one side is longer than the other, and it has a "twist" in it for some unknown reason (I see no need for it anyway). Searched the forum with no joy. It's a repop spring - not NOS - so I have no clue if it's correct or not.

It seems to me the long side should rest against the back of the pedal and the short side rests on top of the 2 hinge bolts? But maybe the other way around?

Thought I'd ask, perhaps to improve 50-50 odds on the coin flip. Any advice appreciated!

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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

4x4M38 · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:38 am Post subject:

Hi Ron!
Long side goes under the pedal, as you surmised.

Take care,
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

RonD2 · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:17 am Post subject:

Thanks Brian! A little more snap to pedal return now.

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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

Madriver1968 · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:06 am Post subject:

This is exactly why I love this forum! My M38A1 passed through many hands (most of them uninterested in originality or ever consulting the manual), and as a result, so much is missing. I didn't even know this little thing existed! Good timing, as I was just repainting my pedals.
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Bill S.

1954 M38A1 (#71757, Feb. 1954)
1964 Sunbeam Tiger
1964 Jaguar E-Type Coupe
1968 Triumph TR-250
1971 Triumph TR-6

OKCM38CDN · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject:

If you look it up in the ORD 9, Page 99 (SNL-758 Sept 1956) it is only used till serial number 76674, after that it was not used or they switched to a different type of spring....

FYI...
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Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK

Madriver1968 · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:43 pm Post subject:

My truck is 71757, so that should be the spring for me!
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Bill S.

1954 M38A1 (#71757, Feb. 1954)
1964 Sunbeam Tiger
1964 Jaguar E-Type Coupe
1968 Triumph TR-250
1971 Triumph TR-6

Madriver1968 · Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:52 am Post subject:

Hi all,

I'm just getting around to installing the return spring. Quick question - what holds it in place? Tension only? Thanks!
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Bill S.

1954 M38A1 (#71757, Feb. 1954)
1964 Sunbeam Tiger
1964 Jaguar E-Type Coupe
1968 Triumph TR-250
1971 Triumph TR-6

wesk · Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:12 am Post subject:

Yes. The geometry of the installation makes it stay put.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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Bretto · Member Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT

Hmm, a part I never knew about. Mine didn't and doesn't have it, doesn't need it.
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Brett
'51 M38
PHOTO DIARY OF MY BUILD

RonD2 · Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:56 pm Post subject:

Hi Bretto. Yep, I was also thinking "over-engineered" when I came across it. Jeep drove pretty good without it.

But for $8 it didn't hurt much. Not like some things do in this hobby!

Regards,
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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari

RonD2 · Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:22 pm Post subject:

Maybe it's there only to leave some spring-back in the pedal if that (somewhat) goofy rubber socket separates from the ball on the end of the pedal rod while bouncing down the road? Can't think of a better reason.

Anyway, it was Wes that hammered me to read the manuals....... Shocked

And he's not in the habit of using a 12-ounce ball-peen with rookies.......more like a BFH. Very Happy

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Ron D.
1951 M38 Unknown Serial Number
1951 M100 Dunbar Kapple 01169903 dod 5-51

“The only good sports car that America ever made was the Jeep."
--- Enzo Ferrari


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