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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: M38A1 - Sealant on floor pans?
Howdy all,
Happy New Year! I have a quick question about M38A1 floor pans and access panels. Was there any sealant used on M38A1 bolt-on floor pans to keep water and/or dirt out of the driver's compartment? I'm reinstalling my floor pans after painting, and while they bolt down nice and tight, I was curious if there were seals or any kind of sealant applied.
You can pull off a single strip, press it on a panel, then bolt down the panels. _________________ 1951 M38 MC 22731
(Converted 12v, Carter WO carb, single action fuel pump, electric wipers)
No. If you seal them it will stop water from draining and in the long run cause rust on the inside. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:51 pm Post subject:
Wes, the SNL calls for the sealant on the floor panels, The water is supposed to run out of the drains at the sides of the floors...
PN - 7348567
SEAL, strip type, 3/16 in diam bead x 80 ft lg (used
w/PLATES, G740-7395158, G740-7697523, and G740-
7697526 and COVERS, G740-7697422, and G740-
7697578)
Can be found on page 301 of the 1955 SNL
Hope this helps... _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
I am aware of those ORD 9 entries. But I still stand by my recommendation to not bother sealing them. Perhaps if you planned on fording the jeep or driving it at highway speeds in inclimate weather a lot but I would not seal them so gravity can do it's work & keep the stains and rust spots off the inside of my jeep.
Hal, You did notice the errors in that list of panels the sealant is used with? You did also notice that the two largest floor panels are not mentioned in that list.
Quote:
(used
w/PLATES,
G740-7395158, Not listed in ORD 9. It may be a typo for 7375158 PTO shift lever plate.
G740-7697523, Eng Heater Cutout
G740-7697526 Steering column cutout
and COVERS,
G740-7697422, Tranny Cluster Gear. It may be a typo for 7697522 brake filler cover.
G740-7697578) Shifter rectangular cover
Joined: Feb 17, 2012 Posts: 530 Location: Del City, OK
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:21 am Post subject:
So, John where in your opinion does the sealant go... you have done more restorals than most. Just asking... _________________ Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
Joined: Feb 20, 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Illinois
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:51 am Post subject:
Eventually you will have to pull the floor pans to be able to pull the engine and trans. Then, it's a big advantage not to have them stuck together. Or to have to scrape off or clean up all the old goo to put them back in again. I didn't seal the pans in my M38 or M38A1. _________________ 1951 M38
If you were to do a Factory Restoration for judging I would say it needs to be there...
Only for the panels that are listed under that sealant.......!
Also a factory resto guy can always argue that we have no idea if that sealant is only listed on the Army logistics documents or is actually included in the Willys factory drawings for the tub assembly! Remember the ORD publications were entirely developed and maintained by the Army for the jeep after it was delivered. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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