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Cacti_Ken
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ryan. well at least I have those clips. Man I'll tell you one thing, but you are probably already aware of. the "S" lines you buy don't fit and they are very hard to modify to fit. I finally accomplished getting one that will, now I'm working on the other one.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,

Yes, those "S" lines are really a pain. I filled mine with fine sand and then bent them to fit properly.

I saw that in the movie "Flight of the Phoenix" with Jimmy Stewart.

It really worked, just don't forget to wash out the lines really well before final assembly. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I was doing it with sand also. I've seen the Flight of the Pheonix probably 4 times. It's one that I have on Tape.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd tack on to this old gold nugget of a post >>> Very Happy <<< to include a couple of photos of what I believe is the later style axle clamp for brake lines that I was recently patient enough to find two.

The screw isn't original and it's length isn't correct --- should be 1-1/2 inch according to the ORD9.

I used a white crayon in the second photo to get the stamped part number (size ?) on it to show up better for the photo.





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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more I look at the ORD9 screw length for this clamp, the more I think maybe I found a typo and the screw length should be 1/2-inch and not 1-1/2-inch.

The clamp shown in the photo above has a 1/2-inch 10-32 screw and nut on it, and the clamp is relaxed with a diameter that measures very close to the 2-1/2-inches as called for in the ORD9.

While I haven't mounted the clamp to the axle tube with a brake line yet, I measured the axle tube at less than 2-1/2-inches in diameter.

This makes me think that the 1-1/2-inch screw called out in the ORD9 would be very long. I'll take another photo when I get the brake line installed and clamped.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1 1/2" is correct! You are only comparing the almost 2 1/2" diameter of the axle tube with the clamp opened only to 2 1/2" without considering that when installing these clamps they must be further opened and require a 1 1/2" screw so you can start threading the screw into the nut while the clamp is more like 2 7/8" ID. Don't forget the clamp does not just match the diameter of the axle tube, it must also accommodate the 3/16" diameter of the brake line tubing. That cutie short screw screw you photo'd will not handle the job of the installing that clamp.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Wes! I had some doubt that I was missing something about it (not having fitted it up yet).

After I find some round-head slotted 10-32 x 1-1/2 screws I'll post another photo of them clamped around the brake line on the front axle.

I'm going to use one of the later style spring-steel style clamps on the rear axle, as I was only fortunate to find two of each and it takes three to do the job (2 front, 1 rear).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original screws were 10-24 and will be easier to find with full length threads. Most of the NF 10-32 threaded screws have an un-threaded shank.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wes,
Pretty sure the ORD9 page 251 calls for 10-32 screws on this clamp?

The hard part for me is finding *slotted* round heads. Plenty of Phillips heads and those goofy combination Phillips-slotted head screws around, all fully threaded. I don't recall ever seeing 10-32 or 10-24 screws partially threaded.

I usually have no problem getting coarse or fine full-thread slotted round head screws in *brass* at local hardware stores. So long as high strength isn't required (as for this clamp), after a coat of paint it's hard to tell they aren't steel.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you'll read just the next line in the ORD 9 you'll see that the first issue screw is 10-32 and the second issue screw is 10-24.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed I ought to know better by now!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one of those threads is going to work in that clamp without stripping the threads.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh? You lost me with that one Brian.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian assumed the clamp had the nut built in. But the nut is separate and both of the 10-32 threads were superseded by both of the 10-24 threads parts (nut & screw)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Wes,
It seems like neither one of us rookies can read the ORD9.... Shocked

Kinda glad I'm not alone out here... Very Happy
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