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Ramsey 50 winch parts?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject: Ramsey 50 winch parts? Reply with quote

I just found a complete Ramsey 50 winch setup with PTO, shafts, joints, etc. but I had to also purchase the M-38 it was factory mounted on. The Jeep is in decent condition and about two-thirds restored. The winch is in excellent condition with one exception - the shaft that the engagement lever mounts on has had the end buggered. It looks like someone lost the lever and used a pipe wrench to engage/disengage the winch. A brand new lever was furnished with the Jeep but the end of the shaft is so chewed up that the lever can’t be used.
My question is this: Can a new shaft be located through surplus parts, from Ramsey, or am I going to have to have one made? I think it would be relatively simple to use the old shaft as a pattern and have a machinist duplicate it with an end that would mount the handle. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found no evidence any replacement exists anywhere for that shaft ORD PN 7411958, NSN 2540-00-741-1958 or 2520-00-741-1958, Ramsey PN 59 or WO PN 118259.

I would suggest you disassemble the winch and hand the shaft (TT), lever (WW) and end housing (H) along with the hardware (VV, UU, XX & YY) to a machinist and let them resolve the issue in their shop.



An alternative is to reshape the shaft end that carries the lever to match the lever by weld buildup or grinding.

Another alternative is to weld the lever to the shaft.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I guess the machinist route is the way to go. From what I read, the winch is surely worth fixing right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes. Values vary from a reasonable 3 thousand to off the planet prices
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was in really tough shape and I had someone machine a new one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you happen to have the machinists drawings so I can have one made? It would be nice to take the old one out and put the new one in all in the same day.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I just sent him the part and he made the new one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To insure a high level of success with proper fitting of the parts be sure to hand the machinist the shaft, the lever and both index keys to keep the fit custom and tight.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent the guy that did mine the case, the lever, and the shaft. It all worked out well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a hood number and serial number for that jeep? We are trying to track winch jeeps.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan_Miller wrote:
Do you have a hood number and serial number for that jeep? We are trying to track winch jeeps.


Ryan if you are looking for mine it is not an orginal winch jeep.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bill!

What about the original poster Biff - that may or may not have been factory installed, but the information could be helpful.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent Biff an email yesterday with a M38 survey form attached.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wesk wrote:
I sent Biff an email yesterday with a M38 survey form attached.

I got your survey form but am up to my ears in other things. I’ll get it back to you when I get a chance.
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