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Deadguy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: I bought a new dash plate Reply with quote

Is there a special rivet tool I need? And if so, does anyone know where I get one? Also, I apparently have a later edition ignition switch, does anyone know who sells the skinnier early version?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should do a quick search of the forum for some of these answers. Both questions have been answered several times here.

The dash plates are screwed to the dash on early m38's and riveted to the main carrier plate on later M38's with tubular brass rivets. The tool used for setting the rivets is shown below.


This is the rivet set and you must support the head of the rivet with something.


Here's a complete tool set that has it's own anvil, set, backing bit and rivet removal pin. This tool is only $15. You use a 8 Oz ballpean hammer to drive the set.

Not sure what you have. The three common M series ignition switches with Douglas metal connectors are all the same size and use the same lever. The difference is in the number of wires.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best guess on the "non-skinny" ignition switch:

The late M-series ignition switch (as fitted to the M151, among others) would have packard type connectors, which make it look pretty 'fat' at the back of the switch. Since the switches look about the same when fitted to the dash, here's an alternative to replacing this switch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M37-M43-M38-M38A1-M170-Ignition-Switch-Wirring-NOS-/320754864627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aae7ad1f3

The leads have metal tags (A, B, C & D) which correlate to the letters on the back of the late ignition switch. These leads allow you to connect the late ignition switch (packard connectors) to your original wiring harness (douglas connectors). The douglas ends are numbered 11, 12, 27 & 85.

Here's a wiring diagram indicating the numbers above:

http://willysmjeeps.com/downloads/M38wirecolored.jpg


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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes,
I need the Willys M38 ignition switch (EARLY VERSION) What is the correct connector? What is the difference between 2 and 3 wires?
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wesk wrote:
You should do a quick search of the forum for some of these answers. Both questions have been answered several times here.

The dash plates are screwed to the dash on early m38's and riveted to the main carrier plate on later M38's with tubular brass rivets. The tool used for setting the rivets is shown below.


This is the rivet set and you must support the head of the rivet with something.


Here's a complete tool set that has it's own anvil, set, backing bit and rivet removal pin. This tool is only $15. You use a 8 Oz ballpean hammer to drive the set.

Not sure what you have. The three common M series ignition switches with Douglas metal connectors are all the same size and use the same lever. The difference is in the number of wires.

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/T2018.html
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