Tire Holder - Modified and should I replace

strathdaigeil

On my M38, I have this tire holder. As you can see, there was an additional support bar added to give three bolt locations per side instead of the shorter two bolt config on the originals. The three per side/longer support seems more sturdy but I'm curious if this was a military mod or a civvy after it was decommissioned.
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wesk · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:07 am Post subject:

I would guess civilian mod to carry a much larger wheel & tire for serious off roading. I would return to the short stock version unless I was going to run 10" to 12" width wheels and tires.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

strathdaigeil · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:17 am Post subject:

Thank you. Found one on ebay for $100 so not too awful.

RICKG · Member Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1741 Location: SO IDAHO

For the money I think I would employ my cut-off grinder and welder and re-work it back to spec. It's basically a hidden part when the spare is mounted. (.02)
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strathdaigeil · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:30 pm Post subject:

I have no cut off grinder or welder. The bolt holes on the original piece ( without the two angle irons welded on) has one that is fully ripped out.

For me, the $120 is a much easier expenditure than the grinding and welding.

I will, however, have to figure out of the military ever welded supports onto the tailgate to keep them from bending. If so, then I have a few pieces to either have removed or have smoothed out a bit.

RICKG · Member Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1741 Location: SO IDAHO

YES!! The M38 tailgate is well reinforced. Go to Wes' foto album, find M38 body, 1st pg shows tailgate.
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RICKG MC 51986 DOD 01-52, '50 CJ3a

wesk · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject:

If you haven't noticed by now the mod on your carrier actually raised the tire mounting higher above the tailgate.
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

strathdaigeil · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:25 pm Post subject:

Looks like someone went weld happy on the tailgate. Notice the several extraneous supports.

I'm guessing there is no harm in leaving these in place and still having it relatively original? I say that because it will be hidden by the tire when mounted.

and from the inside:

4x4M38 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:18 am Post subject:

Looks like a repop tailgate without the spare bracket supports.

I'd cut off the junk and put the correct brackets on the inside.
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1950 M38
MC11481
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RICKG · Member Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1741 Location: SO IDAHO

Good news is the hinge channel is not rusted out. There's a lot of good tailgate there to work with.
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strathdaigeil · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:03 pm Post subject:

Bretto · Member Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT

Word to the wise, don't toss anything away, you'll regret it. Save stuff for reference, re-use, for sale, rebuild.......
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'51 M38
PHOTO DIARY OF MY BUILD

G740 · Member Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 499

Midwest Military has brand new ones for $115, made in the USA.
John

4x4M38 · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:56 am Post subject:

Bretto is right. Also. Go look at his photo pages or search tailgate.
He took one completely apart and repaired it.
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Brian
1950 M38
MC11481
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=album372&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

strathdaigeil · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:24 am Post subject:

Cheers. Will do. I have heard that the original body parts were more heavy duty than most of the remakes. Is this true?

Perhaps i will invest in some grinding/cutting tools. I have a pal who is a professional underwater welder who can do the further repair stuff.


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