AUTOLITE 2245 discontinued ?

wilfreeman · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:08 pm Post subject:

It doesn't look like much interest on a group buy to me. In my search for 2245s, I ran across a guy that has a decent supply of old stock AR7S (looks like 60s box to me) that I can buy fairly cheaply. If anyone is interested, I could possibly buy and sell them a LOT cheaper than current online prices. I'll check into a large purchase (the more I but, the cheaper they are) if there is enough interest. For obvious reasons, I don't want to reveal the source. Also, what does the AR8S fit?
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rgmutchler · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:44 pm Post subject:

Matt I might be interested in buying 8 or so. Please keep me in mind if you go through with it.
Ralph Mutchler
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wesk · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:43 pm Post subject:

It has a different spark plug lead connection dimension that does not fit the M38/M38A1 harness. As I recall the 2246 or AR8S was a PE engine plug.

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wilfreeman · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:28 am Post subject:

Oh, ok - thanks Wes. I went to another guy the other day on a parts run and he had a couple dozen of them sitting on a shelf with some larger plugs for tractors.
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RICKG · Member Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1740 Location: SO IDAHO

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rgmutchler · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:25 am Post subject:

Matt,
I take it from Wes's posting that these are not a replacement for the Autolite plug for the 134L or F.
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wilfreeman · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:48 pm Post subject:

The AR8S is NOT a replacement for the 2245. The AR7S is a replacement plug for the Jeep. I have a place that I can buy the AR7S plugs. I will be placing an order in a few weeks - let me know if you want some.
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wesk · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:31 pm Post subject:

Matt, The next time you visit that parts store take a 2245 with you and take a photo of the 2245 and 2246 alongside each other for me.
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wilfreeman · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:14 pm Post subject:

Will do Wes. He's an 87yo man that has been collecting military parts and tractor stuff for 60yrs. In rough shape, so I'm trying to go there every chance I get - all he has is a nephew that has no interest in military stuff. I'm sure he'll scrap everything he can't sell quickly when the old man dies!
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1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
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Brinken · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:29 am Post subject:

Wes
I have been following this thread eagerly, hoping that I will find an equevalent for my civilised F134, but with no success.
Can you recommend a spark plug for civilian cables?
For the moment my engine carries NGK BP5S plugs, but I am not sure they are suitable for this engine.

I have tried on the Internet for cross reference lists, and conversion data bases with no results. Maybe I put in wrong letters. You know the expression "Brown material in Brown material out"
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wesk · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:52 am Post subject:

The current production Champion civilian plug numbers are:
Part# 841, Plug Type J8C; NON-RESISTOR TYPE; Gap .030; OE Type
Part# 871, Plug Type RJ8C; RESISTOR TYPE; Gap .030
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Brinken · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:30 am Post subject:

Thanks Wes, you always light up my day
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keats · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject:

I have talked with a marketing person at autolite also and he basically said the same thing. He is going to have some conversations with engineering about this issue in a few weeks and said he would get back to me on any chance of a short run of production. He wasn't optimistic however as it would mean "thousands" of plugs needing to be made, even if they still had the parts. He stated that there has not been any sales of this plug for 2 years. I also notified the MVPA about this in hopes that they may have some advice or suggestions. They said that they will look into it.
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RICKG · Member Joined: Aug 31, 2010 Posts: 1740 Location: SO IDAHO

2243's have dried up too.
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wilfreeman · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:04 pm Post subject:

Seems I missed a few posts here for some reason. So far, I have David and Ralph and myself that are wanting plugs. These are the Motorcraft AR7S version of the Autolite 2245.

I'll call on Monday to get a quote. Last chance for anyone else to get in. Fingers crossed that he hasn't sold them already!
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1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
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