m38 seat cushions

w30bob · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject:

Dave.......thanks for that info!

Brian.......question regarding the seat covers and how they attach to the steel pan on the jeeps........do the covers have a guide wire sewn into them that the little metal triangles in the pan go over?

thanks,
bob

4x4M38 · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:24 pm Post subject:

No Sir.

No wire, just a stitch to keep it from unravelling.

My take based on photos. You wrap the canvas cover including the springs down and over the edge, while holding tension you push the canvas over the "darts" then mash them down flat against the pan.

Probably done upside down. And the "darts" need to be 90 degrees to the pan.
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wesk · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject:

4x4M38 · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:11 am Post subject:

Thanks for clarifying Wes.

I know I've seen a couple of decent photos showing
the install. I'll look around.
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w30bob · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:35 pm Post subject:

Yeah....thanks guys. I went out and took a peek at what seat bases are under my cushions......the covers are just stapled to a plywood base bolted to the seat frames.

I picked up one nice used original pan and I see they repop them. There's also a few NOS ones around out there......so I'll get my seats correct in the Spring.

Thanks,
Bob

Xamon · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:52 am Post subject:

not sure if it was a Canadian thing but on the one seat pan that was with my jeep the edge of the canvas had been rolled over a cord and stitched. The dart then pierced the canvas and crimped around the cord. Unfortunately I have no pics of this, what material was left was in very bad shape and smelled of mouse.
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wesk · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:04 am Post subject:

Military fabric shops were routinely tasked to locally fabricate cushion covers for MV's and aircraft both US & Canadian. That said, unless you have a cover with ORD and/or FSN's on them or you have a sealed container with an NOS cover with ORD and/or FSN's on them the odds are you have a locally fabricated cover.

To take the original cover theory to the final positive ID level would require the Factory Blueprints and production line BOM's.

The only service manual shot of the underside of a front seat in the M38 is on page 40 or TM 9-1804B. If you look closely you can almost make out the little spear tabs and along the rear edge of the seat bottom is a piece of string hanging down.
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w30bob · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:49 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys,

Well........here I go complicating things again. I just received a used seat pan with springs and what's left of the cover........and the cover does have a guide wire in the bottom hem that the little triangular teeth clamp to. It's not a steel cable, but rather a rope of sorts that the cover material goes over and is then stitched to itself. Seems to be the perfect size rope for the size of the little triangle teeth, as they curve around the rope nicely.

Now I don't know the history of these parts.......the guy had it listed as a M715 pan and springs, hence my previous question, but it's definitely an M38/A1 pan. The springs themselves are the later coil style (in remarkably good shape as is the pan), not the earlier S-springs. I assume the pan didn't change when the spring type did.........but could be wrong. I don't have any ORDs later than the 1955 version. Only the very top of the canvas cover is missing, the 4 sides are intact and still attached to the pan.

regards,
bob

goldenjeep · Member Joined: Oct 27, 2017 Posts: 9 Location: Russell Pa.

Any chance you could take a couple of pics. I am doing seat pan and springs myself . I picked up some springs on ebay. I think they are right for a m38. I picked up pans from MWM and they are nice.
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w30bob · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:19 am Post subject:

Hi Sam,

Can do............I'll get some pics up when I get home from work later.

regards,
bob

w30bob · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Sam,

Here you go. First pic is overall pan, second shows the guide rope detail and the third shows the little pointed triangles bent over the rope. Anybody know if the repop seat covers have this guide rope feature?

thanks,
bob

goldenjeep · Member Joined: Oct 27, 2017 Posts: 9 Location: Russell Pa.

Thank you Bob those pics are very helpful.
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4x4M38 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:54 am Post subject:

Prototype or not, it sure seems like a good idea.
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4x4M38 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:39 am Post subject:

Prototype or not, it sure seems like a good idea.
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