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linx310 Member
Joined: Jul 05, 2009 Posts: 158 Location: Texas
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16247 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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That depends on what you expect from the charger and what type charging you intend to do.
The choices are endless from Hi Amp starter units to very low amp trickle units to high end/high dollar maintainers.
One should first gather a very detailed understanding of how batteries work, what types are out there and what charger types match which battery types.
As a rule of thumb the one size fits all chargers are a jack of all trades and master of none thing. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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linx310 Member
Joined: Jul 05, 2009 Posts: 158 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yea I didnt need a charger that specialized in conditioning batteries or slowly topping them off when not in use.
I needed some thing that could perform an occasional charge to multiple different applications and an occasional jump start on a vehicle.
If my budget was unlimited i could have purchased 4 different chargers for each type with "smart" functions that apply current in all kinds of fancy ways...but that would have been overkill.... |
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MODIFIED Member
Joined: Mar 28, 2008 Posts: 353 Location: BrOoKlYn
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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A "Solargizer" works great as well. I've used one on my vehicle for over a year now. Though not really a charger. its more of a battery maintainer. Kept the batteries happy during storage. |
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mtdave Member
Joined: Nov 10, 2009 Posts: 37 Location: Billings,MT
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I originally did the unhook the cables run two 12 volt chargers shuffle. That's ok but I decided to go hi-tech. The Northern Tool catalog lists several solar chargers/maintainers I bought the 5 watt trickle charger cause it's about the same size as the windshield planning to mount it behind the glass. When I received it the instructions said it was weatherproof so I made a bracket that hooks to the roof of my hardtop. Now here's the best part the instructions say it puts out up to about 25 volts so I put my meter on it and sure enough 24.8 volts. I hook it up on the opposite -/+ posts and with a quick disconnect on the ground cable I've always got full charge. One thing though since mine isn't restored it sits outside all the time in the sun facing south which is perfect for solar charging. If your parked inside I don't see any reason you couldn't mount the panel outside on the wall and run the wires through the wall or window to your jeep. |
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sonny Member
Joined: Jul 05, 2009 Posts: 136 Location: Mooresville, North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I use the 24 volt BatteryMinder charger, maintainer, and conditioner. Been using it all winter and I love it. _________________ 1951 M38, 1952 M38, 1952 M100,1946 Bantam T3-C, RT-66/GRC, PP-112/GR, MT-299, DT-44 Mine Detector, MVPA # 33068, PMVPA CO |
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Jim Member
Joined: Apr 14, 2005 Posts: 196 Location: Van Buren, Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Schumacher Speed Charge Computer Smart. Working
OK for about four years now. I do the disconnect and
switch routine.
Jim in Darkest Arkansas |
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DaveM38A1 Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2008 Posts: 99 Location: Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Just picked up a Deltran Battery Tender 24V. Ran me about $60 to $70 as I recall. Seems to work well to keep both batteries in good condition until I get the M38A1 ready for a road trip. |
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:16 am Post subject: BatteryMinder hookup to charge BOTH batteries? |
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Bringing up an old thread here.
I bought the little BatteryMinder 1500 at Northern Tool earlier this week. I had one battery that would charge up, but drop back to 10.5v when disconnected from the charger. I hooked the BatteryMinder up and it has been charging/desulfating for 5 days now - or at least I THINK it has. It might just be in maintenance mode (I'll have to check the lights LEDs again tonight).
Anyhow, my question is about hooking up for charging BOTH batteries in the Jeep without buying their $22 splitter. I'm thinking that the BatteryMinder should be connected to the FIRST battery, then run 18ga jumpers from the Pos-Pos and Neg-Neg terminals. With that being said, do I need to disconnect the battery cable between the Neg and Pos terminals of the 2 batteries also? I know you can charge both batteries at the same time using a charger on each battery - WITHOUT disconnecting the cable between the batteries. Wouldn't this be the same scenario?
My plan is to buy one of their quick connect ports and mount it (hidden). That way, I can pull into it's parking place in the shop and plug in the single wire from the BatteryMinder. Then only have to give a little thought to maintaining the battery by checking the electrolyte every once in awhile and be done. _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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OK, so I did a search on charging batteries and got a few hits. I read through them after I get back from lunch. Don't roast me yet about not searching! I'm at work and trying to educate myself at the same time. I'll post back if I find the answer I was looking for. _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog) |
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Yep, answered my own question - you should disconnect the short battery cable or buy a 24v BatteryMinder. I guess if I want it to be as easy as I want it to be I'll have to spend the extra $$ for a 24v model and use this one on the side by side and lawnmower batteries! _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog) |
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w30bob Member
Joined: Mar 22, 2017 Posts: 301 Location: Great Mills, MD
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi wilfreeman,
I've got the 4-battery Delran Battery Tender. Between my garden tractor, my full size tractors, snow blower, chipper, cars, trucks and MVs I always have 4 batteries on charge. I usually rotate between groups of 4 every two weeks or so over the winter so when I go to use something I know the battery(s) are fully charged. The 4 battery tender is a bit more expensive, but for me fully worth it. I've also got a single 6v tender for my Cub tractor. Been using them both for more years than I'd like to count and never had an issue with either. I don't think they make a 24V version........but could be wrong.
regards,
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wilfreeman Member
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 1079 Location: Richburg, SC
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the battery problem is real! I am in the same boat - between the 2 M38a1s, 4 wheeler, side by side, lawnmower and Massey, I always have one with a dead or low battery and replacing one or more yearly. Gets expensive!
I checked on my battery when I got home - still charging with the desulfating light flashing. 3 cells look new and the others are in different states of scaling. Hope it works à _________________ Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog) |
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