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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Help with Dzus fittings Reply with quote

My M38 jeep reproduction body came with the instrument panel installed with four bolts and nuts. My original instrument panel has Dzus fittings. I'd like to install the original but I'm not sure how to proceed.

Currently there are four 3/8" holes drilled in the body for the bolts. I have the correct Dzus fittings but I can't figure out how they install on the body. Any help would be appreciated. I tried an internet search but the type of Dzus fittings they showed are not the kind used on my jeep. Thanks, Marty
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty,
There are clips that go into the holes, then the dzus
pin goes into the gauge panel and into the clip.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some on eBay.
The flat side goes towards the gauge panel.
It mounts behind the dash.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Dodge-GMC-M38-M38A1-M37-Instrument-Panel-Screw-with-Clips-Deutz-Fastner-/232746448035
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4x4M38 wrote:
Here are some on eBay.
The flat side goes towards the gauge panel.
It mounts behind the dash.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Dodge-GMC-M38-M38A1-M37-Instrument-Panel-Screw-with-Clips-Deutz-Fastner-/232746448035


I have all the parts. Sorry that I'm slow on this one but I can't figure out how the part with the prongs physically attaches to the jeep. Do they go into a hole or clip to something? Marty
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Marty,
The pin goes through the gauge panel, into
the clip, the pins line up with the two open
slots. A half turn twist tightens it all up.

The clip fastens to the dash from behind.
There should be slight depressions in the dash
where the middle of the three clips on each end
go on the front side.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if I remember correctly, there is a small indentation in the center of the hole on the dash. the middle tang of the clip fits into this indent and the other two go on the other side of the dash panel. do this on one side of the clip then you need to pinch the clip to fit it into the other side of the hole. spring pressure holds the clip in place.

the middle tang is on one side of the dash panel and the other two are on the other holding the clip in place.

make any sense?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably better explained than I did.

Hereís a Wes photo. The two clips are
installed on the left side but not the right:

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album76&id=IMG_5997_7_1&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

took awhile but found this photo.

http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gallery/albums/Gary-Keating/instruments.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a big help. Now I've got it! Thanks to all.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job Gary!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must hold it thus:



and use a pair of pliers to bent/pinch it together so it gets narrow enough to fit into the hole.

After it is installed it will look like this:


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iíd love to see the dies thatís formed on!
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just installed one today; it is intuitive how they fit; I used needle nosed pliers and squeezed it from the back with the one prong in the detent until the other prong popped into the opposite one. The are springy and it fit well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I would have known this weekend that I was suppose to squeeze the clip to insert it. I tried bending one of the center tabs so it would fit through the hole in the dash panel, thinking I would bend it back after it was inserted. I ended up breaking the tab off, of course. So, I reached around the bottom of the dash panel and held the clip in place when I tightened the screw. That worked, but the clip is going to fall to the floor the next time I remove the instrument panel.

Anyone have a spare Deutz clip laying around?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a set from Quarter Ton Military off ebay, 12 bucks for a set of 4 plus shipping.

Willyskaiser also has them as well as Midwest military.

Also send a PM to Halfbob he has a few I believe.
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