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Massive Carb flooding on M38 Carter
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US fittings are always the best choice. The greatest percentage of overseas threaded items lack any serious accuracy.

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the discharge weight needs to be square or round stock bar that cut to lenght will be 1/8" under top of carb.


I pulled a new pair out of a carb kit from Ron F.

The ball is .157" (5/32") steel. The weight is aluminum square stock. 0.150 x 0.443.



The ball is easy to find:


Our Price: $4.95
. Item: Loose Balls
. Size: 5/32"= 0.157 inch
. Material: Chrome Steel
. Quantity: 100 Balls.

Product Code: KIT8590
https://www.vxb.com/100-5-32-inch-Diameter-Chrome-Steel-Balls-G25-p/Kit8590.htm?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8_PfBRC3ARIsAOzJ2uqHyGbw-TTwGSVpVm7obLoxlEEEFOhP5vGHaXVktjRqS68szLadeLkaAl02EALw_wcB

The weight stock was tougher. I could only find aluminum square bar stock at 0.25" stock. The round bar aluminum stock was usually smallest diameter of 0.25 but I often found 0.1875 stock.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You Thank you Wesk! I bought a round brass rod at ACE but will go back because i saw some Aluminum there i could sand down. Thank you for clearing up the material of the weight..I was wondering because of diff in alluminuim, brass and steel weight. great close up pic! thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another silly idea from me so feel free to tell me why it will not work but, could you not come at the aluminium round stock from the other direction and find a sufficiently heavy aluminium wire?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly, 6 gauge is 0.167. Rather soft and flexible though which may make sizing difficult.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually thinking more of the fencing type wires some of those are quite stiff. Again you may have a problem getting a straight piece though.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello Wesk, Does the infusesor /diffuser V prong between the carb and manifold poke down in manifold or up in the carb? thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the two thin gaskets also!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes indeed.

Question: The disharge weight in Ron's kit is aluminum. How critical is it to be aluminum?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any non-ferrous metal would work. The idea behind the aluminum is not so much it's resistance to corrosion but it's weight. A properly sized aluminum weight will weigh what Carter wanted it to weigh!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got carb back on . Canít remeber how to hook throttle spring back ??? Anyone got a picture of how the spring hooks back to linkage? Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of coarse the engine will not crank or hit!!! Rebuilt carb and cleaned to Max! I am so frustrated as why it will not try to fire off. Sounding now as if no gas. Is there something beside carburetor I need to be looking at ?distributor? Thanks for any suggestions. I am going to climb in a deer stand and regroup. Our duty is on
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see you are not using the manual while you work! Nor my very technical photo album with 100's of detailed photos in a few dozen sub albums showing each system.
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TM 9-8012, Para. 129 Carburetor Assembly, Page 153, Fig 45 and Page 157, Fig 46!

After you open the book and hook up the spring and it's bracket then move to Sect IV Troubleshooting Para 77 How to troubleshoot then Para 78b Engine Turns But Will Not Start. Then slowly and calmly follow the steps IN ORDER and take notes on results of each step.

You reminded me of the 4 week deer gun season's I used to enjoy in Louisiana in the 70's & 80's. Up here in Wisconsin gun season is only two weeks and ended last Sunday night!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Yes. In a hurry! I have this little iPhone and no WiFi so I have to wait till I get home to download pics.
After 4 hours in stand at 71 degrees and itís the Rutt. I got to thinking to itís no way itís carb. I cleaned that rascal to perfection . The engine just turns over and over and never hits.
So I pulled a plug and held to the block and turn ignition ...... no spark!!!!
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