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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: New M38 tub? Reply with quote

Anyone used a new tub from Kaiser Willyís for a an M38 ? Pros cons, any input from experience would be of great help in making a decision.
Thanks, Brian
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from my best guess the tubs from kaiser willys should be direct from md juan or omix-ada
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MD Juan is the only producer of these tubs currently. They have improved over the years but still need work when you get them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canít decide what to do my original body has very little rust but the dash is a cj2a that is braised in, the battery box is gone, and a plate braised over the hole. The right side has some poor body work in the front and the interior has a lot of paint layers to be blasted. I am kind of stuck on the idea it is original 1952 metal.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your homework, there are several folks here in the states making replacement panels to fix things.

Midwest military does the battery boxes, and for those doing M-38A1's I recommend their front floors. (Wish they would make some M-38 floors to match (HINT JOHN))

Classic Enterprises makes fantastic side panels and back areas.

I have restored both my M-38 CDN and am working an a M-38A! that needed panels was well worth the time and research.

Hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fix the original! As stated some patch panels are available to repair. Those offshore bodies are junk, at least that has been my experience with them. There are even a couple places making a business out of turning those sows ears into silk purses (kinda).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Brian,

As the other guys have written,
fix your tub with panels and try to get a original dashbord and cowl panel as a take out.
That would be the better way.

When you fix your old tub, it remains almost original.
If you take a replacement body, your Jeep isnt that longer.

O.K, the quality of those repro Bodys, over the years is getting better time to time.

But I have seen repros that be creepy in workmanship and matching accuracy.

Like you state, your tub isnt so bad, you can't fix it.

If you build a "fun Jeep" one of those repros would work for.
But if you want to have a authentic Stock/Motorpool Jeep, stay with the original tub.

There are guys out there, which can recognize those details, and can tell apart repros from originals at over one mile distance.

Keep the original body.

Frank
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used two replacement body kits; they are not junk. If you have nothing, then that is your only choice, and the vendor is immaterial, they all come from MDJ. While not 100% perfect, they work fine.
The last M38 I did, the entire floor and 3 inches of the bottom, and the battery box in the cowl were missing; I got a repro floor, which fit perfectly, welded it in. got a battery box from MM, welded that in, and made the lower part of the body. So yes, keep it original if you can, but if you can't, then noting wrong with using a new body. We aren't restoring priceless collectors items here, they are old jeeps and not rare.
In your case, get it sandblasting to show all the body work, and fix the original body.
And it is brazed; Braising is cooking meat
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