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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paper gaskets are used where the OEM wants to insure there will be no loss of torque on the attaching part's bolts due to shrinkage or compressability of the gasket material. If they had used used a rubber based gasket material, no matter how thin this compressibility issue would have forced a need for re-torquing periodically of the bell housing bolts.

Relax Ron, all you have to do is re-torge your bell housing bolts each year while the guys with paper gaskets forget them!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wes!
No intent to argue the point, however it's my understanding (and I certainly could be mistaken) that the thin FelPro material I suggested (Karropak) is a treated paper-based (not rubber, cork, or synthetic) gasket material that won't compress after torque any more than school project paper would. That's why I picked it.

After everything I've spent on my project already, what's another $15 bucks? But since you mention it, I'll have to put it on my annual flight inspection checklist! Wink

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Interesting for $85 a roll!

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Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust
Fel-Pro gaskets offer 100% vehicle sealing with application-specific materials to give you sealing solutions with the performance and durability professionals trust
Karropak gasket material 1/64" x 18" x 25 yards
Offers the ability to cut custom gaskets
Chemically treated fiborous sheet designed for use on oil, water and gasoline
Engineered and manufactured specifically for the repair environment
Unsurpassed quality you can trust


Here's the correct gasket description for the two different gaskets (front and rear side of plate.

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5330-00-040-1875 (804377, 8328048) Data
5330-00-040-1875 (5330000401875) NSN Information
NSN FSC NIIN Item Name INC
5330-00-040-1875 5330 000401875 Gasket 04522
5330-00-040-1875 Features
MRC Parameter Characteristics
AAGR Cross-Sectional Shape Style Solid single or composition
ABVL Aperture Diameter 13.310 inches nominal
ADVC Side Radius from Gasket Center 7.110 inches minimum and 7.130 inches maximum
ADVM Cross-Sectional Thickness 0.028 inches minimum and 0.112 inches maximum
BYWW Smallest Bolt Hole Diameter 0.406 inches nominal
BYWX Largest Bolt Hole Diameter 0.531 inches nominal
MATT Material Paper overall
5330-00-040-1875 Manufacturing Part Numbers (SKUs)
MFG SKU CAGE STATUS ISC RNVC RNCC SADC DAC HCC RNAAC
804377 34623 A 6 2 3 X XX
8328048 19207 A 6 2 5 X XX
5330-00-040-1875 Manufacturer
MFG SKU CAGE Manufacturer Type Status Role
804377 34623 AM General LLC A A
8328048 19207 U S Army Tank Automotive Command A A


Quote:
5330-00-040-1876 (8328049, 804379) Data
5330-00-040-1876 (5330000401876) NSN Information
NSN FSC NIIN Item Name INC
5330-00-040-1876 5330 000401876 Gasket 04522
5330-00-040-1876 Features
MRC Parameter Characteristics
AAGR Cross-Sectional Shape Style Solid single or composition
ABHP Overall Length 15.060 inches nominal
ABMK Overall Width 10.540 inches nominal
MATT Material Paper overall and glue overall
MDCL Material Document and Classification MIL-G-12803, no. +3313-B mil spec all material responses overall
5330-00-040-1876 Manufacturing Part Numbers (SKUs)
MFG SKU CAGE STATUS ISC RNVC RNCC SADC DAC HCC RNAAC
804379 24617 A 6 2 3 X XX
804379 34623 A 6 2 5 X XX
8328049 19207 A 6 2 5 X XX
5330-00-040-1876 Manufacturer
MFG SKU CAGE Manufacturer Type Status Role
804379 34623 AM General LLC A A
804379 24617 General Motors Corp. A A
8328049 19207 U S Army Tank Automotive Command A A


As can be seen above Paper is just that, Paper! I have been an auto and aircraft mechanic since 1962 (That's right 58 years) and construction paper has never let me down when I needed a substitute for a paper gasket no long in production!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enough to make 2 gaskets, $12.27 delivered with free shipping:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193045415150
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not even going to waste any time looking up the cost of two sheets of construction paper. The rest of the folks will grasp the principle and go the right way. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

......and that's what makes America GREAT! Very Happy
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