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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:50 am    Post subject: T90 gears Reply with quote

Hi, I have a second T90 gear box which I am learning about just out of interest.
I have seen a lot of rebuild videos on the net and recommend on this site.

I also see many different manufactures from U.S.A parts to Italian and Indian.

Does anybody know what WG stamped on some of the gears means?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WG = Warner Gear Company

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, I see from the Net good USA company now call Borg Warner certainly know that name.

Thank you for the info.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to the effort of rebuilding it, determine which gears you may need to replace, and start looking for NOS parts on Flea Bay and other sources. The older USA manufactured parts are better metal, with the proper hardness, and fit up as they should. There are some good deals out there... Pay special attention to the Countershaft... the offshore stuff is soft.
Novak (novak-adapt.com) supplies good small parts kits.

I rebuilt my T90 using the TM, and watching a couple of videos. It was more intimidating than difficult. Best part was the feeling of great accomplishment after doing it!! Works a treat.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ,good advice will keep on studying.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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T90 rebuild guide

And D18 rebuild guide
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Horse didn't see that your were a Yorkshireman! My USA based sources are maybe not of a lot of use. I would probably pay the additional freight to get NOS parts into the UK, as there is so much junk out there. I think Novak will ship overseas and the Small Part kits are light weight.

I lived in the UK for 11 years. I was actually surprised by the amount of NOS jeep parts that were available on Ebay.co.uk, at very reasonable prices. I actually bought some OEM/NOS parts there, and brought them back to the US.

Good luck with your project!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you have another good source in the Netherlands.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.willystech.com

T90 rebuild guide

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info. I see some parts are sold by a U.K company and brought in from India used on the Mahindras Jeeps but built under license.

They sell full new gearboxes and said up to date no trouble, interesting.

I would like to keep with U.S / NOS parts as much as possible, a firm in Italy seem to have a good name T.A.S gears.

Thanks Jeff in my younger days I visited Palm Beach and had a great time.

4x4 M38 useful site.

Wes, who would you suggest in the Netherlands there are a few.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horse,
Be sure and read the Willys tech T90 article all the way through. There are updates as well as feedback from people who have rebuilt their T90's using the article and provide useful information as well.

The simple wood dowels made assembly of those portions very easy.

And as above, pay very close attention to getting a good quality intermediate shaft. There is a lot of low quality stuff out there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horse - there were many jeeps that were shipped to NATO countries and sold there and many spares scattered all over the UK and Europe. Search on Google and Flea Bay and ye shall find.

I just did a quick search and found a guy in Turkey (ebay handle "nos4jeeps" ) that is selling some NOS M38 Pinion gears for $159 still in the Cosmoline. Inter Europe small package freight use to be pretty cheap, but I don't know what Brexit may do to that.
But beware, I also found a couple of UK sellers selling "brand new" gear sets and other parts that are clearly Omix-Ada or Crown parts made in India, China and Taiwan... I don't want to cast a big shadow here, but from experience I would not again use one of these guys parts in a critical drivetrain assembly. They are buried too deep in an assembly to fix easily.
I get a harmless reminder every time I bleed my brakes on my CJ2A, where I used some "imported" rear wheel cylinders. There I am, gloved up under the rear-end attempting to loosen the bleeder screw when I realize that my 3/8" box end won't fit on the darn METRIC bleeder nut. I could have spent a couple of bucks more an bought some NOS Wagner cylinders, but Noooooo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that.
In the past I have used some NOS parts from Greece which is where my Jeep served her time. I have used military- trading.com in Greece which has a few NOS products and the service is good. I will stay away for the areas you suggested and not be" Pennie wise and pound foolish".
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