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JustenWilson
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: steering box Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I need to pick your brain for a minute. I have completely taken apart my steering box and steering wheel and found a bunch of gunk at the bottom along with some bearings... yikes! I could sure use a complete parts list to rebuild this box along with the steering wheel. I had to ruff with the steering wheel to get it out and this long narrow tubeing seemed to have went up the steering wheel shaft and it broke. I'm not sure what it was but it's no longer part of the jeep. Also if someone could tell me what the correct color for a 54 m38-A1 is that would be great as well. Also to know were i can get a military carb for this jeep as well. And if anyone has ever had luck rebuilding a carb before, i hear its near impossible to make one ever work right. I appreciate yall's time thanks a bunch!

Justen W.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Justen,
Looks like you skipped item #1 on the restoration checklist.

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#1 Obtain the parts and service manuals for the vehicle you intend to restore.


The manuals you need are:
TM 9-8014 M38A1 Operator's Service Manual
TM 9-8015-1 M38A1 Engine and Clutch Ordnance Maintenance Manual
TM 9-8015-2 M38A1 Power Train, Body & Frame Ordnance Maintenance Manual
ORD 9 SNL G-758 M38A1 Parts manual

In addition to these manuals there are component specific manuals for the Carb, fuel pump, generator, starter, regulator, distributor, brake system and etc.

The three primary TM's and the Parts manual are available from http://military-media.com/military/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24&products_id=43
for $19.95 and you get 19 other jeep manuals on this CD. Or you can order paper copies from http://www.portrayal.com/manuals.html where they offer this list:
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Truck 1/4 Ton 4x4 (M38A1 Jeep) (G758) (M170) M38A1 Jeep

* Operation and repair. 390 pages. #TM9-8014 ... $39
* Important supplement to above. 44 pages. #CH-8014 ... $10
* Engine and clutch. 185 pages. #TM9-8015-1 ... $27
* Power train, body and frame. 311 pages. #TM9-8015-2 ... $39
* Power train, body and frame. Important supplement to above.
34 pages. #CH-8015-2 ... $7
* Economy parts listing. Basic parts only. Xerox. 143 pages.
#TM9-2320-208-20P ... $20
* Complete parts listing. Illustrated. 449 pages. #ORD9G758 ... $59
* Basic parts, tools & equipment. 78 pages. #ORD7G758 ... $19
* (Carburetor - see M38 jeep)
* Lube chart, varnished #LO9-8014 ... $5
* WINTERIZATION - Personnel Heater Kit for Willys M38A1 jeep.
Fuel-burning. Well illustrated with Ordnance and S-W parts numbers.
10 pages. #PM-2230 ... $12
* Hot water personnel heater, for M38A1 and M170. 17 pages.
#TB 9-2855-43 ... $9
# Electrical problems - troubleshooting - (M-series). 5 pages.
TB228-20 ... $4
# Electric circuit numbers on M-series vehicles in numeric order.
6 pages. #EL-PS38 ... $9
# Electrical equipment, Delco-Remy. 1953. Huge 668 pages.
Generators, regulators, distributors, starters, etc. #TM 9-8627 ... $49
# Electrical equipment, Autolite. 395 pages. #TM 9-1825B ... $40
# Fuel pumps - repair of most WW2 and early M-series. 160 pages.
TM9-1828A ... $24
# SPEEDOMETERS, TACHOMETERS AND RECORDERS. Repairs for
virtually all WW2 U.S. Army vehicles. Illustrated. 166 pages.
TM 9-1829A ... $19

All above are HIGH QUALITY reprints.
Additional manuals available - request 56 page catalog
($3 USA, $5 overseas).
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The correct color from the Willys Factory for your 54 M38A1 is 2430 OD. This is no longer produced by anyone. The closest ready made paint is Gillepie's 23070 or AJP's Late WWII OD.
http://www.armyjeepparts.com/
http://www.rapcoparts.com/manuals.html for Gillespie Paints

In 1955 the Army switched to a third version of 24087 which is much more browner than 2430 or the second version of 24087. So most MV's when repainted in the field from then on were painted the new 24087.



2430 is on the left. 2nd version of 24087 is on the right.



The rod that runs down the center of your steering mast is the horn switch actuator. All those parts are shown in great detail in the M38A1 parts manual ORD 9 SNL G-758 and the TM 9-8015-2. If you would rather buy a rebuilt unit just call John at http://www.midwestmil.com/

The correct Carter YS950S carb can be obtained from Midwest Military
http://www.midwestmil.com/
This Carb is simple to rebuild and most problems passed around the locker room are caused by inadequate cleaning, old composition rubber parts in NOS kits, wrong metering rod, wrong springs, lack of use of proper technical pubs, and just plain ignorance.

Good luck on your resto and keep us up to date on your progress.
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JustenWilson
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WesK I appreciate all the help, I did buy the manual on a cd and it was a disaster. Everything was out of order, and out of index. Was very little help. For the most part i have done everything on my own with great success, just with this steering box it appears their is missing parts, just wanted to make sure i got everything and it's done right. I will look into buying copies of the oriniganl manuals like your suggested. Currently my jeep has a dark green OD to it with a red primer? Also i have a hole in the back of my jeep ( see picture ) I think it's for an antenna. Tell me what ya think. Once again thanks guys.

Justen W.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have that CD set and it works great. Perhaps you haven't learned your way thru the index's yet. Generally for Willys stuff the #1 CD is service and maintenance and the #2 CD is for various parts list.

The round hole with the square outline of dirt and four screw holes is for the trailer light receptacle. The oval shaped outline below that with a top and bottom screw hole is for the reflector. The two larger holes just left of the trailer receptacle ar for the Antenna mount bracket.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help wesk. I have the parts on order. Your guys are a great help, would have had a very tough time if it wasn't for you guys. Thanks a bunch!
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