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rdsar2k
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Frame Color Reply with quote

I have my 1955 M170 stripped to the frame then I pressure washed it. the original frame color is black. the axle were either black or green and the transmission and transfer were a medium blue flint color.
I'm thinking that I should re-paint the frame black, green axles, green engine - transmission and transfer. I cant tell on the springs but was thinking on stripping to metal and treating with OSPRO which will turn them black and is more like a metal blueing than a paint.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frames came to the assembly line in black. As did the axles. They got their final coat at Willys during assembly. The bluish tranny/transfer were probably overhauled units.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: I'm luvvin this place Reply with quote

What a wealth of info I get here. Thanks Wesk. What about springs? should they be painted or treated in some way?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't want paint between each leaf. So if you must paint them it will have to be after they are assembled into a complete stack. I can't think of anything around the shop you can use to coat the leafs with with a permanent coating. I'd spray a little graphite on each leaf, then assemble and then wipe sides, top and bottom clean with some thinner and paint them black.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Springs Reply with quote

Wes,

What's the problem with getting paint between the springs? I was thinking of having my springs sand blasted with the rest of my frame. So if I can't paint between the springs, than the area between will be left as bare metal, correct? What about overspray of primer and paint, is that a problem?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For leaf springs to function correctly they must be free to move against each other. They must be slippery. If you paint them they tend to stick together contributing to a harsher ride.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Frame Reply with quote

How can the ride get any worse!? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your M170 has the proper suspension and stabilizers all in good working order the ride will surprise you!! The M170 is one of the softest riding stock jeeps you'll find.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does have the stock sway bars and leaf springs. I notice that it was quite squishy when I was pulling parts off. The dual sway bars kinda threw me for a loop. I also noticed in specs that the turning radius is much tighter than a M38a1. I must say that this is turning out to be real enjoyable in restoring. The parts are easy to find (except that stinking upper rack) and on this jeep, all the parts are still original and in fairly good shape so it's a disassemble, clean repair/replace re-assemble job.

The Triumph TR-3 I previously attempted was a nightmere to find parts and lots of missing or modified pieces that were very delicate to work on. Way more rust on pieces that were under pieces (like rocker panels under rocker panels that are all spotwelded together). Less mechanical than the bulldozer (JD 450C) which was a heavy machine to dissassemble to work on though easy on body work!

This thing is a front clip and a tub - no trunk, trunk hood, doors, trim, interior, floor or electrical fused system. The waterproofing stuff is the wierdest but not difficult or hard to find. I think I like this hobby!
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