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GeorgeMcKenzie Member
Joined: Jul 25, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: Brownvale Alberta
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: M 38 24 volt spark plugs |
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My jeep has two different type spark plugs .A Champion #XM-17 , MS 35909 and a Champion X-?17 , 909-2 .The second one I'm not too sure what the numbers are The first one is longer with only one nut on it .The second one has two nuts on it .They are both threaded at the top for the spark plug wires . Are these plugs still for sale ? If not how do you put the spark plug wires to a new type plug ? |
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Zane Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2007 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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yes they are, should be autolite 2243 plugs in m38 and 2245 for m38a1 but 2245's will work fine in an m38 I sell brandnew production autolite 2245's for 10.00 each plus 5.60 shipping for up to 8 plugs |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16261 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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The XM17 (MS35909) is a resistor type 18 mm 1/2" reach some of which came with a 7/8" hex and some with a 11/16" hex.
The XMJ17 (MS35909-2) is a resitor type, shielded 5/8" - 24, 14 mm 3/8" reach plug with a 13/16" hex.
Most of these have been discontinued by Champion same as the many other branks of plugs that meet those MS35909 series spec.
The Auto-lite 2243 is correct for the M38 and the 2245 is correct for the M38A1. I have found these for $6.45 each at my local auto-parts stores.
I might point out here that Portrayal Press sells the "Army Vehicle Parts Guide" originally put together in the 80's by Dennis R. Spence. Dennis was a very regular contributor to the Army Times back then and most of the parts reference charts in this book were often submitted by him to Army Times. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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Zane Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2007 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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6.45 thats cheaper than my wholesale price , id like to know where your getting them as all the other jeep vendors are 8.50-9.75 for the 60 yr old nos ones and theres a difference in 60 year old sparkplugs and current production . The local napa store gets 13.00 each for plugs. |
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Bill_F Member
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 891 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Cheapest I have seen them is about $7.45 each.
On another note while at the weare show someone mentioned that he had adaptors that let him run regular J8's in his m38. Anyone know where to get them? i would love to run a plug I can get locally. |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16261 Location: Wisconsin
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Zane Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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they make military adapters to run civilian sparkplugs , they are however hard to find and expensive when you find them, Kevin Emdee at Star electric did have a few sets im not sure if he has anymore left or not seems like they were around 100-150.00 a set back 6 or 7 years ago. |
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Bill_F Member
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 891 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Doing a little searching on the net I have found them between 7.45 and 8.50 each. I wish I could get them as cheap as Wes can. |
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brimac Member
Joined: Sep 04, 2006 Posts: 49 Location: Brockton Ma.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Try rockauto.com search by part # . If you buy other parts
at the same time the shipping keeps the price down.
Brian
Ps They have 10% off email offers sometimes |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16261 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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It is quite simple to run convential civvy J8C spark plugs using standard Packard automotive high tension spark plug wires or in fact any 4 cylinder plug wire set with a metal core and long enough leads. You may have to shop around for the larger lead to cap boots. You remove the shielded leads from the cap and insert and seal the auto type leads. Shouldn't cost you more than $20.
_________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
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Bill_F Member
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 891 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wes,
I may have to try that. It would be a lot cheaper than running the stock plugs and wires. Any idea what plug wire set may work? |
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wesk Site Administrator
Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 16261 Location: Wisconsin
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SteveJ Member
Joined: Jun 14, 2005 Posts: 110 Location: Calgary Alberta
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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This thread got me thinking (dangerous at the best of times) I was at my local NAPA store and gave them the Auto-lite 2243 number and to my surprise I had a new set of four a few minutes later. They were $12.50 a piece but that was CDN and there was no shipping involved so a great deal for me. It just goes to show that sometimes you dont have to go too far afield to find what you need.
Thanks guys. _________________ SteveJ
1986 CDN Armstron MT500 dispatch Motorcycle
1986 arrow 1.75 t cargo trailer
1991 Reynolds Boughton RB44 GS TUH
1952 M38 CDN W/W (Sold)
1953 M100 CDN Trailer
1951 PE95K Genset (Sold) |
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espurgeo Member
Joined: Sep 14, 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Maumelle, AR
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Scott21 Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Central New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Wes,
I got my plugs fron the same source. I'm not talking, but they try to get me to buy the lot of em.
Scott |
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