Joined: Apr 09, 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Bernried near Munich
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: Lettering near the tank M 38 / USA-Stencil
Good morning from Bavaria!
I own a 1/52 M38 (MC50500). I want to mark the place near the filling cap. In the sentence "Max. safe fuel accept 17 GPM" what means 17 GPM, for what is this the abbreviation?
For the hood I think USA is right, not US Army? I have found 3 kinds of script; is the gothic one the right?
Thank you for answering!
Uwe _________________ 43 MB, 52 M38, 55 Bantam licensed trailer, 08 Commander Hemi, JK Rubi
Here's a photo of brand new 1951 M38's waiting for shipment from Toledo Oh Willys Plant.
U.S.A. is correct also you can't see the positioning of the numbers on the left side of the hood but they were not the same as the right side. They were centered between the front and rear edge of the hood. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Apr 09, 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Bernried near Munich
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:56 am Post subject:
Thank you Wes K and Thomas, you are so kind!! If I haven't your advise I would be a poor boy
One additional question: did the M 38 have 20... oder 23.. numbers on the hood?
In the download-center (serial number database) the army cars all have 20... numbers.
Best regards Uwe _________________ 43 MB, 52 M38, 55 Bantam licensed trailer, 08 Commander Hemi, JK Rubi
Last edited by DocUwe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:58 am; edited 1 time in total
If you look closely the left side numbers are centered in the visible portion of the hood. The front BO driving light reduces the amount of the hood available for the numbers so the numbers are then centered in the available visible space.
The light weight scout car 20XXXXXX numbers began in WWII. The first two digits determined the class. 20 series was for the light scout cars and when the 20's ran out they went to the 21's and when they ran out they went to the 22's and then the 23's. The 23XXXXX run from 1950 thru early 55 when the Army switched to the 2_XXXX where _ = a alpha character starting with A.
Joined: Apr 09, 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Bernried near Munich
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:29 am Post subject:
Good morning Wes K,
many original M 38s I have seen on pictures have had a 20...number.
My ID-Tag is MC50500. Now I do not know which probable hood number I should choose. Thank you for answering and your work with me.
Uwe _________________ 43 MB, 52 M38, 55 Bantam licensed trailer, 08 Commander Hemi, JK Rubi
The European restorers seem to favor the WWII jeep markings when they restore M38's. I don't know why but they seem to do it a lot.
The most accepted practice is to use the appropriate hood number 3 number prefix for the period your jeep was delivered and complete the last of the digits with all or part of your jeep's serial number. This prevents a conflict later with another jeep having the same hood number and also alerts anyone cataloging these jeeps that your hood number is not original but contrived by using your serial number. The correct first three digits for your hood number are 209XXXXX. So the ideal contrived number for your jeep would be 20950500.
The flow of M38 hood numbers was roughly 236XXXX from Sep 1950 thru Jan 51 and 238XXXX form Jan 51 to about Jun 51 then 2089XXXXX fron Jun 51 to Sep 51 then 209XXXXX through the end of production. Note that up through 238XXXX they use 7 digit numbers and after they use 8 digit numbers. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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