Glass question

Phil4280 · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: Glass question

Hi there!

Ok I have to get some windshield glass cut and the various class installers dont have a listing for the M38A1 split 2 piece winshield. Also I don't have a piece for a pattern. I have a new repro frame and rubber seal.

So to try and make their job simpler, ruduce the chance of stuff ups and to ultimatly save me $$$ I would like to give them as much info as possable.

1. is the glass for a circa 1975 CJ5 the same area as for the M38A1? (minus the middle rubber piece of cause)

2. what is the width and hight of the windsield glass for one side of the M38A1? ( in mm or inch)

Thanks!
Phil...
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wesk · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:

If you are lucky someone will have the glass panels laying on the table and measure them for you.

If you are not the A1 parts list shows the total sheet of glass needed is 1/4" x 16" x 50".

If you lay the windshield frame on the glass shop table with the correct gasket set and these numbers any qualified glass handler can get you on the road.
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Phil4280 · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that wesk!
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Current projects:- M606A3 and 1958 Landrover 106mm RCL gun buggy
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circleburner12 · Member Joined: May 16, 2011 Posts: 385 Location: arkansas

phil, i wish i read this earlier in the day. just had my glass installed. but i still have another section on the shelf if you would like for me to measure it. let me know, thxs

Phil4280 · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject:

Hi there circleburner12!

Yes please that would be much appreciated thanks as it will be monday when I plan to take the frame into them.

Phil...
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M3 Stuart Lt tank,1942 C8A HUW, Ex mil Landrovers,1ton Humber & Austin Champ, Mk1 Ferret scoutcar,trailers & Miltary radios.
Current projects:- M606A3 and 1958 Landrover 106mm RCL gun buggy
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Bretto · Member Joined: Nov 24, 2010 Posts: 1390 Location: Orem, UT

Even if you have the measurement of the height and width, you still have the radius of the corners to be concerned with. It might be better to get a traced pattern of the whole panel?
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circleburner12 · Member Joined: May 16, 2011 Posts: 385 Location: arkansas

phil, i could trace the glass also and send it to you if that would help.

Phil4280 · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:46 am Post subject:

Hi there circleburner!

That would be great but I did not want to imposse onto any body as i'm in Australia. Rolling Eyes

Phil...
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M3 Stuart Lt tank,1942 C8A HUW, Ex mil Landrovers,1ton Humber & Austin Champ, Mk1 Ferret scoutcar,trailers & Miltary radios.
Current projects:- M606A3 and 1958 Landrover 106mm RCL gun buggy
Latest addition M38A1 date e

wesk · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:37 am Post subject:

The overall measurements with the correct radius dimension is all that's needed.

If determining a radius is new to you just use a pair of dividers or a circle scribe and match them to the arc and draw a complete circle and then measure the radius (diameter divided by2).
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swat · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject:

Well, this topic has been covered pretty well for an M38A1. Now, can anyone give me the measurements of an M38 windshield.

bluewatersailor

I am in the same boat - bought a new WS frame without glass. I could use the tracing and/or the glass dimensions including radius of the curves. Thanks in advance. dwm

53a1 · Member Joined: Jun 25, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Kern Co.

This is for a 1953 M38A1.

I had a piece sitting on my shelf. I know it fit because I took the glass out myself.

Width: Between 27 5/8" and 27 11/16"
Height: Between 12 7/8" and 12 15/16"
Radius: 3''

Probably measuring to +/- 1/16" is unnecessary but that is what I measured. Rounding down to the the 1/8" is probably fine.
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bluewatersailor

That's great. Thanks. I, too will do my own installing and can get the glass for Euro 5-7 per piece. Sure beats the glass shops. BTW, my 1953 M38A1 is MD58270 Delivered 9/53. Pics on page 9 of Members' Gallery. Also pictured is my 1952 MD26784 Delivered 10/52. The '53 is the Work in Progress and the '52 is a (almost) daily driver. Do you have any extra parts that are getting in your way?
Again, thanks. David Manning

bluewatersailor

WESK wrote

53a1 · Member Joined: Jun 25, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Kern Co.

Hi Wes.

I measured the glass again. I get 27 5/8" and 12 7/8".

I used a tape measure and they can be inaccurate. I have a feeling the glass was replaced at some point in the past so they may have cut it wrong.

If the numbers don't seem correct I would wait for some more responses before getting the glass cut.
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